What act structures would be best for mystery or crime stories btw? I'm curious about that.
I'm gonna check this out this week and see what's up haha
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Do you see this as a positive thing or a negative one? Do you think this works, or is the middle book often the weaker book of a triology for this reason?
I'm not sure that the time line necessarily indicates that something would not be a clear 3 Act Structure though, as technically, you could have an event far in the past as the climax of the story as long as it met the tension and story requirements. Though I think it would be harder to sell to people because they'd be like "we already know what happens".
Awesome!
It's fine not to be an expert in this thread. It's all about learning how to structure things that are beneficial to storytelling and creation, so even sharing your thoughts is a good and reflective first step!
Jurassic Park is like the PERFECT example of this done almost perfectly beat-for-beat. A lot of Spielberg films follow this structure.
Swiss Army Man is definitely a film that doesn't really follow this structure - because of its surreal and weird premise and the way that things tend to fall out. However, if you look at Hank's character arc, it could be argued that it does.
Often webcomics don't progress the same as normal stories, but that isn't to say that there isn't anything to learn from them. It might benefit you to map it out some time and see where things fall on the structure episode by episode. It could be that you have some story elements or chapters that could be condensed, or combined, to pick up the pacing!
Hard disagree. I am the only God in the worlds I create mwahahahahaa. But also, this works very well for those who have a 'pantsing' or 'exploratory writing' method, but it can also lead to issues where characters arcs or the plot 'flattens out' for long periods of time (a good example is GRRM getting stuck with some of his characters and having long drawn out arcs where not much is achieved).
One Piece is going to run until the creator dies. He will never, ever, end it. And that's an interesting point. Works that don't have a set end point like webcomics or weekly manga, how should they look at their structure. I would say that if their arcs don't contain mini-elements of these then people may lose interest and get bored. If you look at Bleach, for example, you can see how just constant escalation without drawing back, can lead to a stagnant story that leads nowhere and is somewhat predictable. Similarly, with One Piece, we know that all the major characters have plot armour because you can hardly kill off Luffy, Nami, Sanji or Zorro and continue for another 600+ chapters.
I think there's also a point to be made here in the differences between Eastern and Western storytelling (and often what the 'point' of storytelling is and the difference between them). I think that's a full topic for discussion in itself, but the difference between Japanese stories and, say, American ones, is often quite stark with characters setting out to learn different lessons, the stories serving a slightly different purpose and with the narrative arcs being based in completely different literary histories.
I'd say that they'd go in the novels section, not the comics section. Just from an uploading perspective, it'd be annoying to upload it as a comic due to the 40 image restriction.
Don't call me and my volcanos out!
It is by far her best book, but also Goblet of Fire also is tight and does this as well. There's a reason she did so well.