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Aug 2019

So I'm writing this script, and there are two main characters. They're a sort of 'moon and sun' pair: one is more quiet and introspective, and the other is more vocal and...rambunctious~.

I like Moon-kun; he's cute and he powers most of the plot momentum with all his ideas. I wouldn't say his character gets more development, but definitely more 'exploration'.

Sun-chan, though...she's necessary, at least. Moon-kun kinda needs her to watch his back and deal with more difficult people.
I even noticed that her biggest character flaw is that she's too attached to Moon-kun, and I wrote in a whole arc about the two friends trying to push their relationship in a healthier direction. Now Sun-chan goes off on her own more often, talks conversationally with other characters, and is starting to move the plot forward in her own way.

And yet...I dunno, I still feel kinda bleh about her a lot of the time. I worry that she's annoying...I already expect her to be less popular than Moon-kun (in the way that Superman is less popular than Batman...or maybe more accurately, in the way that Naruto is less popular than Sasuke) from an audience standpoint, but I always feel this extra pressure to make sure she's not 'too much', while still staying true to her personality.

It might just be paranoia talking...she's a very active, visual character, after all, and I haven't yet begun to draw the comic. Maybe I won't worry as much once her own cute qualities become apparent on paper. Or maybe people will find Sun-chan annoying no matter what I do, and all this worry is pointless. ^^;

My biggest problem is that I can't think of any inspiration to follow. A lot of the 'peppy chosen one' characters I know of (male or female) don't even get as much attention as I give to Sun-chan. It's like, as long as they smile, say their cute catchphrases, get scolded once in a while, and use their explosive powers to save the day, no one actually cares whether they have real personalities at all. And sure, that seems to work, but I want more than that...

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Even type A bright personalities have off moments. I'd say, let her feel a whole range of emotions. Loss, sadness, anger. Maybe avoid airheadedness? You can have a bright loud personality and not be stupid. For example, Sailor Moon is pretty bright and peppy. Some will argue she is annoying, but I think she is very enduring. Her personality is to be always happy and energetic, and clumsy, but she is also loyal, clever, and determined.

So I think you just have to find something special about your character to avoid them being 1-dimensional.

There's a place for characters who are extroverts, who are bright and sunny and open. Sailor Moon fits that type, people love Usagi. Goku. Luffy. Spider-man (MCU).

I've found that as I've got older, I've also appreciated these characters more and more when they show (probably because they're so rare in fiction post 9/11).

I mean, obviously, don't make her one-dimensional. But there are ways to make her grow, and that would probably to make her look how her actions impact on others. If she's being loud, her having discussions with characters who say that it makes them uncomfortable that they can't get their voices heard etc.

And if you want a really great example of a character filled to the brim with PEP and OPTIMISM but who also has hidden depths and a deep personality, you should check out Hokuto (CLAMP - Tokyo Babylon).

I realise most of these examples are really old but it does feel like a less common type of character these days.

Make them funny. It's the easiest way to make the loud character likable imo. Or give them some relatable tragic back story for why they went 180 and became super peppy.

I would avoid making them selfish/self-centered, annoyingly stupid(as opposed to comedic stupidity), or a character that "plays the victim" or blames others for their decisions. Those things get really extra annoying when the character is loud. Like it's way more okay for a character to internally think that way, but not so cool for them to project those feelings openly.

I've never seen this before and it is everything I needed at 4:45pm on a Friday.

I agree that if she's a very physical character, drawing her might make the difference. Maybe do some fun practice sketches of Sun and Moon, and see if the energy she brings makes her more enjoyable to envision when you write? Sometimes I can't connect to a character until I'm drawing them.

Best of luck! They both sound very cute :grin:

As @sarrowsmith10 said, it'd be a good idea to make her feel a wide range of emotions. Extravert people tend to feel them really strongly. You can always try to write how it may annoy other characters and how she's dealing with it. What would she do? How Moon-kun would react to that? But this is only one of possible scenarios. Having her going through a though situation may help her show that she can give a reader more.

When I create some characters it's sometimes useful to base them directly from personality types and then going further from there. With four basic types, you have there two of "loud" ones where you have a lot of listed good and bad personality traits (not to mention 16 personalities one!). Generally, it'd be good to show that being loud is only a part of Sun-chan.

What's also helpful for me is creating some scenarios with said character. How'd she react to someone she doesn't like? If she succeeded with a task, how she would show that? How she'd deal with losing someone? And this goes on and on. Then I give a character some traits and imagine, how those situations would change and then decide.

Don't worry if you won't find a solution right away. Some of the ideas needs to grow with time. Hope you'll find a good enough solution :slight_smile:

I think one of the best "loud" character that I know is Edward Elric from FMA. Naruto is also another famous "loud" character, and while I like Naruto, he oftens annoys me. So from comparing these two characters. I think the best thing for you to do is not to make that character become a brat. So make sure this character isn't "loud' just for the sake of being loud. Definitely be sure not to make the character complain so much because complaining + loud = annoying. Edward is also different from Naruto because he's more mature and can get serious. I guess the fact that he's not as much of an Idealist as Naruto helps a.k.a not trying to befriend everyone he meets. Also, be sure that this character isn't all bark and no bite. Edward is loud and quick to anger but he backs this up by being a genius and strong. Unlike Naruto who can often be an idiot.

Honestly. yeah as people have said explore the character a lot. Why is this character able to be so happy and loud. Is it for attention? Are they happy to mask over something? They aren't just loud because they can be. Along with the explore the character thing. I don't mean show their background or that. I mean show them at their lowest point. The audience won't connect as well unless they reveal their dark side

It depends on the surrounding character. A loud, perky character in a setting where everyone is doing pretty alright is someone the audience wants to choke to death. A loud, perky character in a setting where everyone is struggling to stay alive is the light that's keeping everyone sane and in control.

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The way you make every character likeable. Give

a) depth
It can be the character's backstory, the reasons behind the his/her (in this case, loudness), or show other parts of the his/her personality (can't be loud ALL the time).

b) relevancy
How is the character important/useful to the plot? Why is the character in the story? Does the character have a connection to the main characters of the story?

c) urgency
Give the character a motive. Is his/her objective connected to the main elements of the plot? Is there something he/she wants to gain? Based on their personality, how would he/she choose to achieve their goals?

Her loudness and her attachment to Moon-kun are flaws? Build her character arc around her overcoming them.

You can have her build relationship with others and interact in a social circle that doesn't involve Moon-kun. Since she's attached to him, I'd assume she might feel uncomfortable when he's not around. How does she deal with it? You can build conflict from this. How would she resolve it? Explore her thoughts. Let the audience see what goes in her head. If she pines for him in a way that troubles him or other characters, address this problem. Let her realise what she should and shouldn't do, and grow from it.

Or, give her a situation where she's separated from him at the time she needs him most. What will she do? Will she succumb to her dependence on him? Will she try to solve the problem by herself and grow stronger/more independent in the process?

You can also build up a plot point where she learns to be less attached to Moon-kun and grow to be more independent, learning more about herself and what she truly wants along the way. She becomes her own person, rather than someone whose actions revolve around the main-main character, Moon-kun.

Don't just focus on her loudness. What other parts of her, that define her? She can't be ONLY loud.

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