I'm looking for a good mangaka level artist [CLOSED]

[RiidDisBuk]

I don't recall ever saying it like that (quote me if I have).

I didn't really destroy the artistic freedom. I left room in fact. One of this story's genre's is fantasy. So practically anything can happen no matter how you look at it (i.e transformations, shapeshifting, etc). Of course, it would recieve given context as to how stuff like those awaken. So really, it satisfies both the perspecitves of my artist and myself.

[LortiaMJB]

I am actually decently confident that my plan will create an amazing investment. I have the strategy of donating money to my favorite youtubers displaying them a bit info about myself and why they should read this comic. I will even link it to my friends and my 250+ followers I have on a social media platfom.

Right here. While you are willing to pay youtubers, you are not willing to pay an artist up front. Even if your plan is solid, you'd lose more money than you would be making in that way.

[RiidDisBuk]

Oh, I see what you mean (I need to be specific xD).

Let's say in a donation I introduce myself a bit and give a link to the youtuber. If it's not the youtuber in general who takes interests, it's at least a portion of the thousands of fans who are interested in those type of comics. Given that I follow youtubers who cover manga and anime (if not watch or read), most of the youtuber's audiences will have some peaked interest in reading it.

If it happens it spread worldwide like mad, then it's all about how much we can maintain the audience. Maintaining the audience is within any author's or creator's goal. It's one of those reasons why I left room for my artist create of their own free will with approval with my own perspetive included in this too (considering I put two years worth of thought into it).

I plan opening a patreon, too. So it can go in any positive note.

[LortiaMJB]

You do know... That less than 0.0000000000000001% of any content on the internet becomes viral? Why would you even consider this an option if you're more certain to get publicity by paying an artist to get a good quality out there?

If you're so certain about your story, why not publish it as a novel first or start the comic to practice your own art? Go for Finished, Not Perfect. Show the world how proud you are of this thing you thought up and create for yourself instead of money on the backs of others. If you were to get an artist hired... He could have made the best thing ever himself but you cut him back because he was working his butt off working for someone who won't even pay for his efforts.

Actually get your own name out there first just like the rest of us. You're offending quite a lot of people here.

[Hodge]

Monetary compensation is easily a part of this working relationship. We're talking about a 5-arc slow paced comic like that of shonen anime and manga (only adult rated), so money definitely has to come in for this.

Ehhhhhh Idk man I've seen it go the other way. It's really not easy making money with comics, no matter the genre or type. Hell if you really want to gain a readership by genre might as well do a BL or high school romance (like I have a series of similar genre to yours and it gets so few subscribers on Line compared to my BL its crazy). My advice, being real here, is that if you want such a successful comic, your standard for "decent art" should be pretty high (it's kinda subjective but you get the idea). For now, save the money and pay for a good artist with experience and a style appealing to readers. That's what gets and maintain readers when it comes to visuals. I really can't stress enough how important it is to get a good artist if money is a goal. Cause really, without that I'd suggest just doing the art yourself as you'd be surprised how much you can improve while working on a comic.

As for advertising, I'd also suggest focusing within the manga/webtoon readership. Maybe instead of youtubers, try hitting up other action/sci-fi/etc. comic creators and ask them to advertise the comic, maybe do a cross promotion with them. Or maybe take the path of submitting it directly to a publisher like Lezhin or WebComics. This all was just a different approach worth considering, but I really suggest asking questions in this forum. I know you have already dedicated 2 years, but there's many here who have also spent a long time in comics and know what they are talking about.

[Daknight]

I read everything and I am still confuse. Are you paying the artist up front or it is with the hope of ad revenue? Ad revenue is worthless unless you have a million readers or something that generate enough ad traffic for it to be consider anything remotely enough for pay and even the top of the top don't reach this number O_O Patreon is a good start, but again you need to build an audience that is willing to pay which is not easy at all.

You also have quite the ambition, action is not easy and throw in fantasy and sci-fi and beside not being easy to draw or do it starts to head toward a small pool of readers. Slice of life, romance, BL and commentary comedy sstyle (this is what I call ones like Sarah's scribbles, As per usual, etc. I do this to difference from traditional comedy manga which are more niche than commentary ones) are the ones attract big audience if making money is what the goal ultimately is.

I highly recommend written down a better 'business' proposal for an artist. Cause imagine he makes arc 1, ad revenue doesn't reach much (or patreon) he might not stick around for arc 2, etc, etc.

[RiidDisBuk]

I'm aware that the internet is vast. I'm not certain, just confident. Novels were something I was going for in the first place, but I'm not the type of author who wants my readers to assume how my characters look like. I don't even remember saying that my comic is going to be the best thing ever b/c let's be honest... nothing is perfect. For the record I don't cut back anyone. If an artist were to be my artist, it's of their own choice and free will. And I never said I won't pay anyone for my efforts. We're takling about a 5-arc story. Monetary compensation and admiration is an artist's due respect for pushing themselves.

Now with all that said, would you really think I'm offending anyonne when all I am doing is just answering your questions and seeking for an artist like many are?

[Rosso]

i'm glad you're up for constructive criticism.
while your idea for advertising your project via YouTube donations is interesting in theory
i hope you realize no one actually looks at provided links/google up titles of webcomics at all?
especially if you're talking to, say, a gaming channel (who usually have high viewership per stream)

i would highly advice you this instead:

1. pay your artist upfront with that money. or at least pay them half before they start anything, and pay the rest when a page is completed.
2. unless you're a featured artist, or your name is merryweatherey, do not expect your series to catch any popularity at all, no matter how good you feel your work is. it takes years and a lot of effort to make any money out of webcomics. so don't count on ad revenue to pay your artist (and yourself!). maybe consider Patreon instead.
3. 50/50 is awfully unfair for the artist when all you have is a slow-paced 5-arc action packed premise and a protagonist & antagonist. Not only you expect them to draw everything, but you also need them to be character designer and plot out some story aspects as well (more or less an Editor on top of it)? that's a lot of work for 50/50 ad rev payment...

it's best to just set up a budget for this project see if you can reach a fair agreement with any potential artist. absolutely forget about ad revenue for the time being.

[RiidDisBuk]

I appreciate your concern. The youtuber I donate to are those that cover manga and anime alike. Since those type of people look for new stories to aspire to they would enjoy reading the story and review them. Not saying they will, but at least a portion of their hundreds of thousands of fans might.

50/50 is the safely assuming fair share. It's likely going to be 60/40 or even 70/30 (artist/me)

I do like your 3rd point. While I do indeed have a set of main protagonists and antagonists, I leave plenty of room for them to design a lot of other new characters to be antagonists/protagonists. This story's biggest emphasis (despite the huge set of story tellings) are action and fantasy. There is an infinite amount of room for them to come up with their own designs that may even affect the main protagonists/antagonists (ie shapeshifting or transformations).

This sort of idea leaves both the artist and myself a fair amount of satisfaction.

Once again, I appreciate your feedback. I'm ready to negoiate with any artist that have questions or problems to my idea of a working relationship.

[Rosso]

I leave plenty of room for them to design a lot of other new characters to be antagonists/protagonists.

the point is not artistic freedom, but the fact that you're asking the artist much more than what you're supposedly paying them for(in this case, just draw the comic). Artists charge separately for each character design. And Editors are paid separately as well (proofreading, plot discussions, dialogue, heck even putting down text on pages takes time and effort)

if i may be more honest, a long-term project like this with unclear payment prospect is best to be arranged with a friend, not strangers. there has to be a lot of trust between both parties to stay invested in this project for a long time.

if you can't have that option, consider a one-shot first, and see how it works? you'll have a much better chance at finding interested partners than a long-term project for the time being.

[RiidDisBuk]

I was thinking about a one shot to test the artist and I, definitely. I'm indeed well aware that I'm asking waaaaay to much of the artist as well. This is why I plan to give a huge summary that I will definitely intruige my artist. I've stated this to several people before. I'm not the best at introducing myself nor do I deserve the respect I'm seeking.

The way I put my introduction is like saying; I know this intro sucks, but hear me out. I should be intruiging from the start and I didn't live up to that well.

There is one person who is willing to hear me out, and I'm honestly humbled that they're willing to go into what I have to say. What I brought up after just doing that took them by major surprise.

It's not how it's supposed to work in the real world, but it's happened. And atm, it's happening with me.

Once again, thank you for your feedback and I will take them into consideration as time goes on

[Rosso]

glad to hear that.
if you've secured a partner you may wanna update your main post and title with [CLOSED] to save time for readers.
otherwise best of luck on your project.

[RiidDisBuk]

I'm aware that what I say can sometimes go off in a controversial way. Yeah, things happen in life in terms of working relationships, and many other situations. I do plan on starting small before getting into the meat and potatoes, so no worries.

I've seen people say that they put 5 years worth of time into starting their comic . That's nothing compared to what I've done, but it's mainly on how they structured it.

[RiidDisBuk]

I will

[RiidDisBuk]

You also have quite the ambition, action is not easy and throw in fantasy and sci-fi and beside not being easy to draw or do it starts to head toward a small pool of readers.

I do have two years worth of thought into all of those genres. I'm confident it will work. I'm even sure my artist will suggest something to add/replace that I think will be better.

Yes I do plan to pay my artist. I am working on creating a patreon as we speak.

[Daknight]

Man that comment of just casually indirectly insulting people that have put 5 years as 'nothing compare to me' really put me off. Good luck on your project.

I do suggest not to put other people passion and time commitment down if you want to get help from other artist in the future though.

[RiidDisBuk]

Not from what I see. If it were 5 years worth of work, I wouldn't see a need of replacement, at least in comparison to me.

I definitely will. Thank you

[kyurenai]

Not everybody shares the same pace as you are. You're just beginning your journey into creating your comic. Sure you may've thought of it for a long time, but since you said that it's gonna be slow-paced it will take possibly more than 2 years. Things like burnouts and hiatuses happen along the way so don't underestimate those.

[spadesart]

Novels were something I was going for in the first place, but I'm not the type of author who wants my readers to assume how my characters look like.

if you dont mind me popping in again, there's actually a workaround with novels ive been taking advantage of by putting in my drawings featuring the characters interacting offscreen/in-between chapters to help with this. i've actually been having a lot of fun with it.

[ar-ninetysix]

there's actually a workaround with novels ive been taking advantage of by putting in my drawings featuring the characters interacting offscreen/in-between chapters to help with this.

I mentioned how I needed an artist for a comic and how I ended up getting a partner earlier, and here's the thing.. She ended up recommending I turn it into a novel instead because of the script I wrote up! She still wanted to help with the art though, so she insisted on making it a novel with art accompanying it. So, that's what I'm doing now. This is totally an option you could take, if finding a someone that dedicated becomes difficult. Again, leave your options open~