Not Happy, Webtoons

[ArhyaM]

I actually have something to say regarding the censorship issue and Tapas.
A few months ago they reached me because one panel of one of me series portrayed nudity. It was shocking to me because it was from a finished comic with more than 4 years of updates and I always thought I was respecting their guidelines.

Turned out to be a panel where a male character was sleeping naked and half a testicle was visible. I felt outraged about the idea of having to censor what was literally a tiny curve line in a panel with no sexual connotations; even though I kept it cool and had a few chats with the moderator. After a while, they discussed the topic again and told me that they understood my frustration and decided to not block my comic because of that.

To me that's what makes Tapas better than Webtoons, the fact that you can talk and discuss with the staff and your voice actually matters. I have a way larger audience here and they are lovely, so Webtoons is just a place to post my work without much interest over the place.

[RosesnWater]

Yah, I’m hoping it gets reversed but I’m sorry for your future works! It’s true that you can get creative with restriction but in a lot of ways it just limits creativity-

[RosesnWater]

I have some questionable beheadings and body horror in mine and like yours it’s the boobs is what sets people off???! I’m just- the senselessness id astounding -_- I will never stop screaming about how if it’s okay for a man, should be okay for a woman in comic design.

[RosesnWater]

I know right?!!?? I’m still holding it hope for the appeal but this is disheartening -_-

[RosesnWater]

Yah, I’m feelino a little that way now- I do still love engaging with my readers there, it’s just one jerk whose probably never even talked with me decided to report it

[RosesnWater]

Honestly- my first instinct was to be petty and scribble all over the page to block it out, but I don’t like the idea of doing that now. I mean I’m still pissed and its made worse seeing all the people on this thread who have creative, different content that’s been flagged. I really want the rules just to be changed I’m not sure if it will happen but maybe if some of originals or bigger creators stood up for this webtoons would have to listen. I love Olympus lore, but every other image of Persephone is like -huge cleavage- so why the heck can’t small time creators do it??

[tiredpigeon]

Wait- Isn't Killing Stalking on Webtoon?

[RosesnWater]

Seriously, is it, because I have read parts of that and- it’s pretty intense across the board-

[RosesnWater]

That’s a really awesome resolution, my stuff has been featured once on Tapas (which I assume someone had to go through it) and nothing was ever flagged here?! I think it’s just that people have gotten to point where on webtoons they’ll accept moderators removing their content without fighting back because they either don’t get results or the moderators are incredibly hypocritical when it comes to the canvas vs the original works they’ve published.

[tiredpigeon]

I'm surprised they haven't taken it down..I haven't read it, but I've seen screenshots of Sangwoo doin' adulty fun time crimes on the (?) lil kid.
I don't even know if the other dude is a kid but he looks like he's twelve

[RosesnWater]

I read it before I knew anything about BL, and the tropes they involved and some of the harmful content they can push. I was into mystery anime/mangas so I picked it up was really surprised by the stuff it included. That said this is like serial killer BL so it’s way more graphic and non consensual than what you typically see in the genre, even on the extreme side. I had to drop it pretty soon after the first couple of chapters-

[UrMom]

Pff to be honest I would have just deleted my comic entirely, to me Webtoons is a trash site that can't even bother to have basic functions, but I had readers on there that I felt bad for abandoning so I decided to stay while being a petty asshole about it. If I can just get one Webtoons user to migrate to Tapas or another superior site instead, the pettiness will be worth it.

Someone once suggested that the special treatment their originals get is due to them already be regulated by the staff, and it would be too hard for them to do the same for canvas comics, but that's still pretty high double standards. It also misleads canvas creators into thinking they have the same creative freedom. The Webtoons staff can't even bother to get a notifications system, allow links in comments, so I doubt they will change their content rules anytime soon.

[TedGravesArt]

Dude they deleted my comic because I showed a butt in one panel, and this is a featured comic with full on slappin cheeks. wtf Webtoons.

[RosesnWater]

Welll.... disappointing, but I can’t say I’m too surprised. I’ll be sure to follow up with a professional enough response about how it is messed up this is happening. I don’t want to be blocked or stonewalled for bringing the matter up, but I think it needs to be said.

[TedGravesArt]

As bitter as I am about Webtoons' aggressive censorship policies, maybe a reasonable solution would be to put a sticker over the bits in the panel that says something along the lines of "read the proper version on tapas", and then put a link to the tapas version in the description?

[RosesnWater]

And here’s my response, hopefully it’s phrased earnestly enough.

I don’t know if I have any reason to be blacklisted, the idea of it scares me since being featured really did help my comic out a lot and Webtoons might be inclined to pass over me in the future if they don’t like what I said, but I don’t think this strict policy is helping them, especially where it only applies if you belong to a certain gender. Either way I do hope it changes eventually and I’ll keep the original images saved in case I’ll be able to upload them again in the event of a policy change.

[RosesnWater]

It’s strange, but it makes me feel uneasy/dirty to put stickers like that. (It’s a great suggestion, I think that’s what I’ll end up doing, it just makes me feel like I’m advertising a more pornographic version on tapas, which isn’t true in the least.)

[TedGravesArt]

Yeah, I feel the same way. Maybe if people click through they'll realize how ridiculous Webtoon's censorship standards are.
I'd read through the Webtoon content rules to make sure a tapas sticker won't violate some other edge case though. Let me know what you find!

[RosesnWater]

I’ll see how it turns out! For the moment I’ll be blacking it out with a brush with maybe a tiny note and put a more detailed message in author’s note.

[disco_deewane]

sorry this isn't really related to your point, but what's the name of the comic that picture's cut from?