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Apr 2019

Random (probably stupid) thought. Sorry...
What happens when Tapastic and Webtoons merge together?
This is both an impossibility or possibility but more on the impossibility side though. When both turns into one thing.

I think it would be advantageous but also possibly a disaster I think :sweat_smile:
Both has their own pros and cons

creator based and reader based all in one , oh yeah---- that would be great. We wouldn't have to switch one to the other one.

Yeah sorry for this topic if it doesn't make sense

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Well, I think it would be a disaster. It would be better if Tapas grows its own reader base natural. Otherwise I’m afraid it just would drown.

the trolls would gather and destroy something good. and people would leave

I am finally realizing that thank God both are separated and it's better that way.

Just reading from other people arguing which one is better and I just thought why wouldn't Tapas and Webtoons merge together.

We would get the creator and profile, more customized settings we would like from Tapas and a wider audience from Webtoons.

But yeah sorry if this is random HAHA

having been on tapas for some time i'd prefer it continue it's path of organic growth. complaints will always be made about something since that's just the way people operate but a merge of the two in my opinion would be a hot mess

plus the sites landscape is always changing in some ways and there's constant addition of people even if it can be slow going. i'll stick with vanilla tapas

Bruh I would probably leave if this happens. Two big apps/ communities merging together would leave a lot more things to worry about and a bigggg intake.

It might be nicer to get all the settings and wants, but definitely HARDER to manage.

I go to webtoons to read some nice comics but as for publishing my own comic I am a lot more comfortable with Tapas, since I get to interact with u guys

also (and apologies for double posting) another good fit could be the hellmo meme

this one:
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it would probably be webtoons buying tapas, because theyre the bigger company. they could allow tapas to keep running and just keep the profits, but i cant think of a reason why. so probably webtoons would absorb tapas like the absorbolof, and the lil logo creature will be a distorted face protruding from its bum.

it would worry me, as itd be a move towards webtoons becoming a monopoly, although theyre far from that right now. i doubt itll happen, though i think one of them will beat out the other eventually (or both will die at the hand of some other, newer entity)

it would be a monopsony, a lot of producers but only one platform/client, it's not as bad as a monopoly but still pretty bad =/ since we the producers would have 0 power over the clients platform and would be stringed along by any decision they choose

I'd be even more worried about novels ngl :joy:
It'd take forever for webtoons readers to notice, given the sheer ratio of this hypothetical merge.

I'd still post tho. But I have a feeling novelists would leave due to how wide the difference would be, meaning even less of a chance at getting engagement.

Pretty much this. I rather like Webtoons, but the comment section is something I hold in the same regard as a sleep-over with Jeffrey Dahmer. I'd sooner read YouTube comments than the ones on Webtoons.

Case in point: Check out Lumine's comments. I personally stand on the side of people fed up, but whew-wee is that place a war-zone a lot of the times.

I wonder if tapas algorithm is actually damaging them in this area =/

I mean the problem with a robot dictating what should be promoted is that it can easily end up making an echo chamber for readers and the platform itself, like a self-fulfilling prophecy, people read X more so only X gets promoted creators think X is what people actually want so they only make X and people only read X because only X is being produced. It's a real pickle. =/

also, webtoons censoring? how? why? and dang it

(Sorry in advance for the wall of text, and for further derailing).

The comic goes on hiatuses with a great degree of frequency, entirely unannounced and unexplained on Webtoons. Alongside shorter and shorter chapters, and art that has degraded by several degrees. Also I think fans were miffed about the promised Halloween special never being delivered.

Also after a particularly pivotal moment of the current season, it went on hiatus for SEVEN weeks without a word from the author on Webtoons, just said "Lumine will be back next week!"... for seven weeks. I likened it to the Yellow Jacket Riots at one point on here, but the seven-week hiatus was like the London Blitz in the comment section. I was frustrated myself, but people took it about seven degrees too far and acted like uncivilized rabid animals.

Nowadays it's split pretty badly between people who are fed up with the author's lack of any form of communication and perceived updating whenever she feels like, and die-hard fans. So there's a ton of bickering between the two sides. It being a featured comic adds rhetoric that the author doesn't deserve to keep her spot if this is how she acts, especially since many other comics work hard and never get it, and other featured comics go miles above what Lumine does nowadays. Lack of communication I think is the worst offender.

TL;DR: Very inconsistent updates, a complete stone-walling from the author on the website. Shorter chapters, much lower-quality art, and a seven week hiatus on a massive cliffhanger, on a featured comic. Stonewalling is making people voice their anger.

(adding my apologies for derailing as well as a potential wall of text)

Hopefully keeping to topic just a bit i think is one of my associated concerns with what a readerbase like webtoons' could/would mean for tapas as there is HIGH expectation for creators. Basically the "entitled reader/audience". I definitely understand wanting an author/artist to communicate reasons for prolonged hiatus but I imagine it's a primary reason why most tend to advertise their active art/comic related socials, so that readers can be made aware of things going on so not to turn their comic into a bunch of "update episodes".

This is one of the reason why I prefer tapas since it's got the creator wall. The only downside to that is it's practically nonexistent to mobile users which is where most Tapas readers seem to be and that feature hasn't been back on mobile in years.

Webtoons as far as I'm aware doesn't really have any kind of system for creators to notify their readers of things outside of comic updates. I'm only saying as someone outside of webtoons though and just from what I've heard from people who are on the platform.

As for the decline in art quality (and this could be me getting a little defensive as an artist) I wonder if it may be simple because the more complex artstyle was cause for physical strain or simply made production move at least a bit quicker. Detailed art isn't easy to make consistently and lots of artist end up with physical problems due to strain from producing content for readers.

Snailord's is the first that comes to mind with that and even though on social media he's explained his hand injuries some readers still go on the attack claiming he's "faking" or making excuses, being "unprofessional". More things that i'd honestly hate to see on tapas as the reader-base for the most part is non hostile and i seriously hope it manages to stay that way since i doubt i'd have the patience to deal with that kind of attitude.

In short, I definitely understand readers anticipation and expectation but I also think that there's also got to be an understanding that the artists/creators behind comics can at times be a one person army producing content and things can get overwhelming. plus even when a team exists people are only capable of so much. It's a two way street that requires communication and understanding.

also apologies if this seemed kind of rant-y. no harm meant just voicing an opinion.

I'm starting to the get the impression nobody here except Korean posters know any about "how" big Webtoons is, it's parent company, Naver, or the complex licensing deals Tapas has U13, Nate, and Kakao/Daum.

Honestly why wouldn't Webtoons give more custom settings for creators or at least improve the creator, profile surface, or whatever settings like Tapas does, if they are the bigger (probably richer) company than Tapas? Is there something holding them back? Are they planning it to improve it in the future? Is it still in the works? Or it just remains like this forever since this is their mark? :thinking: If these are the comments and feedback they get all the time relating to creator options why wouldn't they make this happen?

If I don't know anything about what's going on , sorry