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Sep 2020

A few days ago I came across a tweet that really made me think about what many people consider to be an essential element of a successful story : a romantic subplot.

Said tweeter mentioned how shows with romance tended to garner more attention. I don't necessarily agree and think they just have a stronger online presence because shippers are one of the most active members of a fandom, but there is definitely an appeal there that cannot be ignored.

Personally, I've never been much for the romantic subplot and growing up I found most ended up feeling either shoehorned or outright ruined the show I was watching.

However, even if it happened once in a blue moon, once such a romantic subplot managed to tickle my fancy, I can definitely say it made me way more invested in that franchise.

So, here's my question, how much does romance or a romantic subplot matter to you as content consumer? Is it the most important thing that draws you in, is it an important element or does it mostly leave you indifferent.

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Usually I only ever watch/read works that have romance or romantic subplots. A story can sound really amazing, but if there's no romance angle in there as well then I usually lose interest in it. There are obviously exceptions to this for me, but yeah, romance is pretty important to me

Yeah, that seems to be the general attitude - which I think I need to take into consideration when creating my own stuff.

I prefer stories with a romantic element. There's so much you can learn about a character from how they act when romance is involved and romance is an almost universal human experience, making it a relatable aspect. And shipping can be fun too.

I like romance if it's done well. if it's done poorly, it can and will ruin a narrative. perhaps this isn't true to the average consumer, but stock-standard, uninteresting romance lessens the impact of a story for me, and stumbling, badly-done romance can make me dislike a story

For me, Romance is a must.... when growing up, a little les, but at this point in my life I'm just all for romances.

I enjoy seeing what characters do in their down time. I also enjoy character development. Romance may not necessarily be part of those things but I welcome it when it's well-done.

I'll forever recommend 'Romancing the Beat' by Gwen Hayes if you're new to writing romances!

It all comes to implementation:

A well made romantic subplot may get me more interested, but a badly made one will make me lose interest.

For me it really depends on the series.
If the overarching plot and its subplots had enough to fill each episode/chapter, then a romantic subplot isn't necessary.
Netflix's Lost in Space for example. It's a sci-fi adventure all about problem-solving and discovery with a large focus on the family dynamic of the Robinsons. Definitely doesn't need a romantic subplot in my eyes. Any romance we do get is some teen crushing without heavy focus as of season 2, which is fine and feels natural, and then a rekindling of bonds between the patriarch and matriarch of the Robinson family, which was really good and I loved.

Then you have something like Sense8. While it's pretty action-packed with an interesting plot already, there is a heavy focus on connecting with other people so romance is a natural course for a main and subplot. There are established couples, new couples, couples that don't get together till the very end. Those along with some lovely friendships and parental relationships strengthen the show's themes. And you know what? It all worked excellently together. I loved each and every one of the main and secondary relationships focused on in the show because they felt natural to the characters and the plot.

I'm actually indifferent; I don't care whether there's romance or not in a story (if all else fails, fanfiction is a thing, after all). Really, the building of any relationship (friendship, rivalry, enmity, etc.) is interesting to me; there's more to social intrigue than just romance.

Side note: I wouldn't recommend trying to inject romance into a story to 'appeal to the masses' if you're not actually comfortable with it (or worse, you don't even like it). I'm pretty sure that's how you end up with romantic subplots that are 'shoehorned' in; that distract from the plot...story elements that you don't know how to work with/aren't invested in often end up that way.

I hate romantic subplots.

Not because there's anything inherently wrong with romance, but mostly because the vast majority of romance does not cater to what I think of as attractive/good relationship, so most of the time it just ruins the rest of the IP for me. Like, your usual love interest in a straight romance is actually kinda gross by my standards so I can never sympathise when the on-screen characters are like OMG HE'S SOOOOO HAWT. Like, I have a hot partner of 11 years. If your love interest is not hotter than the real person who sleeps next to me every night, don't try to sell this stuff to me. I legitimately had to put a highly-recommended book down because in the first 30 pages the female character (who is SUPPOSED to be a distinguished mission commander, but whatever) just keeps gushing about how manly and scraggly this guy is and I just kept retching every time she added another descriptor. Oh he's SO MUCH OLDER AND GROSSER-LOOKING THAN ME, TAKE ME AWAY, DADDY! Eugh. Gay/lesbian romances are a little better sometimes because they usually don't feature the nuclear waste pile that is heteronormative standards, but then that brings me to point two...

....Maybe the love interest could be physically attractive, but the way the two characters handle it is absolutely repulsive. Maybe it's toxic, maybe the characters act like toddlers and not the adults that know how to speak that they're supposed to be, maybe the woman(in a straight relationship) is too passive/submissive. Again, it's just cause for frustration and can ruin the rest of the property for me.

So... In theory I'm all for romantic subplots because I like the idea of attractive people getting it on as much as any normal human being, but in practice most of them tend to be an annoyance because they're just not done well.

In my own writing, I do add them if they're natural, but I think on the whole platonic close friendships can be just as interesting of a narrative device as romantic relationships, so I only go the romance route if it actually makes sense. And I greatly enjoy adding already-established romance, like two people who have been together for a while and work well together.

As someone who ships my own characters, yeah, romance as a subplot is great if done right ^^ Though I personally don't mind at all if there is no romance subplot. I agree sometimes it can feel a little out of place. I say if you're doing romance, do it right at least !

When I was a teenager, I had a crush on my science teacher, who was 60 years old. One of my own characters that I consider to be attractive is a 50-year-old woman. So, no, older people can be very attractive. I just find the usual straight dude romantic interest to be kinda repulsive. Much Manly. Very Shovel Jaw. Wow. No grace, no vulnerability, no honesty.

I don't usually care about a romance subplot in the content I consume, because I'd rather have no romantic subplot where there is chemistry than having a shoehorned in subplot. If there's chemistry between characters I usually end up just looking up shipfanart/fanfiction if it isn't the subplot in the story.

I think it depends. I don't actively go looking for stories with romantic subplots, but when they're there and it's written well, I get pretty invested. Most of what I like about the story will be the other aspects of the plot, though.

If they're not written good, well... shudders as I think about all the stories I've read/watched where the romance was so bad it affected the overall quality of the story

Also I sort of agree with Mallory, lmao. I once dropped a book series (spoiler, it was Throne of Glass) for a variety of reasons, but mostly I was sick to death of the MC having a new LI every three books (Last time I read I think she had about four? Including the one that died), and the fact the NEWEST LI was like a piece of carboard whose entire personality was "omg he hot, hot elf boy dedicated to his strong independent gf. look at him, his abs. he's hot"

God, I fucking hated that character lmao.

I think a romance subplot should always be a vehicle of the story's character development & themes. I usually look at it from the concept of an 'impact character', where this character - in this case the love interest - serves as a pivot point to challenge/help solidify the character's views of themselves and the theme. I'm all for a good romance subplot, and it's mostly only gonna feel shoehorned if it doesn't serve the plot at all, and if it doesn't the rest of your story better be damn good or that romance better be cute, or im out.

I love romances, consummated and unrequited, however, I did read some books on the net that had no romance and were extremely easy to invest into. But I like emotional investment from other characters into the main or vice versa. If it is not romantic love, siblings’ feelings, a fan cheering, parental or filial love... basically, I need love in some form to be there to warm up to characters.

Edit: I also wanted to add that it doesn’t matter to me if the romance is straight or not. I find women romantically as attractive as men, so I don’t have any barriers to cheering for any pairings, except obviously abusive relationships.