The Bitching thread 2.0

[punkarsenic]

oh man thats sad i wont lie, cats do do some pretty dumb shit

[UrMom]

This reminds me of a thing I read the other day about a family with an outdoor-indoor cat. Apparently their neighbor had a problem with the cat, so they took it 10 miles away from it's home, and dumped it. The family is pressing charges, and still looking for their lost pet.
We have a few cats like that, but we only let them in the yard. Not because of cars... mostly, but cuz people can be so awful for no reason. Hell, every Halloween black cats turn up mutilated around neighborhoods in our city as a holiday "tradition". Plus I live in a desert, and the last thing I want is a coyote, or javelina to get one of my cats.

[ISNEKO]

I always had indoor/outdoor cats. They like to lay in the yard and eat field mice.

The current cat I have now I only have because he just showed up one day and inserted himself into our family between the other cats.

He's a lazy shit who became afraid of the outdoors now tho.

[punkarsenic]

oh thats a bloody dick move.

yeah, id definitely keep a cat in on halloween regardless. i just cant respect the concept of just keeping a cat in for its safety, regardless of how it feels about it. its not fair! quality of life > length of life, imo.

[UrMom]

Well, if they get past the yard there's not much that can be done. Personally I don't think being torn apart by a larger predator after desperately trying to escape would equal a "quality life", but different strokes for different folks. I've personally seen, and buried, too many pets who've been killed in their youth to be completely "who cares what happens."

Unless that cat was previously a stray, of course. Since they're not completely ignorant to the dangers of the outside, and know how to defend themselves. I'd still be wary if I didn't see the cat within a few weeks, though.

[punkarsenic]

ahh yeah, im probably biased bc my cat was previously a stray, and he was very competent outdoors. that didnt stop us from losing our shit if he didnt come back for his second breakfast though.

i just dont think its fair to condemn the concept of outdoor cats across the board

[TheThoughtfulBoxful]

lol i can't stop thinking about my grandparents' place. it CRAWLS with wild cats (they feed them) XD

[punkarsenic]

your grandparents are doing the work of GOD

[joe_galindez]

Then again, put that many cats in an apartment building and they're no better than vermin.

I had a crazy cat lady for an aunt. Every piece of furniture she had was slowly dissolving under an onslaught of cat piss.

[punkarsenic]

ooh thats not fun... you gotta have a control over the cats

[UrMom]

I don't disagree, it is awful to force your cats to stay if they don't want to (I had to keep my cats in my room for a while cuz my mom's husband was an abusive ass who went after the cats if they were out. I felt pretty shitty for having to do that), but I feel it depends on the outdoor cat. Most of my indoor-outdoor cats were born, and raised indoors. They were never taught basic survival skills, hell, when they're lucky enough to catch prey they don't even know to eat it. If any of them got past the yard they'd most likely get scared, get lost, then die from something. It'd be like letting a toddler run loose in the wilderness by themselves.

So yeah, to me outdoor cats who were born outdoor cats are fine, but a cat born indoors, with no survival experience is less fine.

Anyways, I don't want to keep derailing the thread, so I'll be ending my end of the conversation.

[TheThoughtfulBoxful]

this is none of my business dear god

Talk to her. Try to explain to her her how certain behaviors have been making you feel. If she's truly a "pretty sweet person", she'll most likely strive to do better moving forward. If not, well..
I know this sounds harsh, but sometimes we have to cut ties when relationship change. You have your whole life ahead of you to meet new people and form new bonds
See if you can get her to understand you; then make an informed decision. I'm sorry to hear this is happening to you!

[dawgofdawgness]

Man, I've tried this but it always ends up with me telling her how I feel and then the argument gets turned into a huge insult fight. And the next day we act as if nothing happened and we're friends again... But maybe next time I'll take a different approach thanks for the advice!

[TheThoughtfulBoxful]

Wow, that's rough. I think maybe the whole "pretend nothing happened" thing might not be the best approach, since it's basically supressing any negative/hurtful feelings that need to be addressed and resolved. I hope it all works out for you girl

#but let me not turn this into a group therapy thread, pfft

[dawgofdawgness]

Thank ya
also a group therapy thread would be hilarious pff

[joe_galindez]

maybe next time I'll take a different approach

Maybe it's time to stage an intervention.

"Missy, we all gathered here today to tell you that you've been acting like a complete flunderbudgett."

[Mari]

this stupid fucking song is in my head lord help me is it 2004 again

[dawgofdawgness]

Flunderbudgett?????? I LOVE IT

[LordVincent]

1. Help me I'm swedish so when that one is played I ACTUALLY KNOW THE BLOODY LYRICS SO IT'S STUCK EVEN HARDER
2. I am fucking pissy because I can kinda sing... until I approach a microphone. Then I sound like a half dead bird on the road screaming for sweet mercy.
   I USED TO BE A NEAT SOPRANO DAMMIT IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT HARD TO BECOME A GOOD BARITONE

[joe_galindez]

this stupid fucking song is in my head lord help me is it 2004 again

I got the antidote right here: