What made you not/want to read this comic?

Mari 2018-08-23 23:45:09 UTC #1

This is a question other people can partake in (Post your comic and someone who passed on it can reply). This sort of subject can be hard for people to deal with, so please be polite in your replies.

Alternatively if you have read a comic posted you can say what made you go in on it.

Here's mine for start;

audratki 2018-08-24 00:20:28 UTC #2

I haven't completely passed on your comic yet. I just subbed and hope that I can try again later. I do like what's happening so far and am intrigued enough to keep going with it.

My only complaint is all the handwritten text and its sizing is all over the place. Some things are super hard on the eyes to read. I spotchecked and it does appear that in the future you write bigger, so maybe I'll be able to power through the small stuff or maybe I'll get multiple headaches.

PS, I'm up to the 10th update (so early early stuff) and was reading on a PC.

Mari 2018-08-24 00:23:47 UTC #3

Oh thanks for giving it a chance! The early stuff is extremely hard to read, It only gets better maybe halfway through the second chapter, and becomes consistent in the third... I dunno why I had some weird boner for transparent bubbles in 2010, but those are an actual nightmare....Even if you end up not managing to go through it, I commend you for trying

TheFalseVyper 2018-08-24 01:11:09 UTC #4

This is a really interesting thread, and I've been curious about this question regarding my comic for a while!

As for your comic, I would have to agree that the hand written text towards the beginning was difficult to read. The art was amazing and very beautiful so it was hard for me to decide if I wanted to pass or not.

UrMom 2018-08-24 04:40:20 UTC #5

Ooo I love it when people tell me why they don't want to read my comic! (seriously, it gives me an idea of how other people see my stuff) Also I remember a thread like this on SJ, nice!

(Warning: NSFW, and contains sensitive subjects. Read at your own discretion)

@Mari, regarding Not So Emo, I actually tried reading it yeeears ago, back on SJ. This was during the time I was getting out of my fujoshi/weeaboo phase so I couldn't really get into it with the BL, and all the Japanese inspired stuff like chibi panels, and how some of the characters acted like anime tropes.
That was back then though, I think what makes it hard for me to read now is the size of the early pages combined with the small text, and busy panels. Even the newer pages feel sliiightly too small for me, it makes everything feel cramped. I'd suggest making the pages a little bigger to give your characters and speech bubbles some breathing room, they all kind of lay on top of eachother. It would also give you more room the work with regarding setting, and body language.

But I'll admit being a computer user, and your comic may be easier to read on a phone. Sorry this isn't very objective.

@TheFalseVyper, I remember checking out your comic a while back! I think I just forgot to save it for a proper read through.

TheFalseVyper 2018-08-24 04:42:56 UTC #6

Well if you do read through it, you'll have to tell me what you think!

Progg 2018-08-24 10:01:20 UTC #7

Nice thread! Here's mine:

@Mari, this isn't the kind of comic I usually read, since I usually don't like everyday settings unless it's in a gag-a-day format, but that's a personal preference. There's a whole lot of personality and humor, and Nem does strike me as a very believable dramatic teen, especially regarding his inner monologue. At the start of the comic you warn about the early pages being cringy, but I really don't think they are. The art gets better later on, but I think the early pages work fine for the kind of tone you're setting. Someone pointed out that the text is sometimes a bit too small in the early pages, and I agree, though that's not a problem with the newer pages. (And I definitely think handwritten text is a major plus in any comic.) For me, the grayscale makes it a little difficult to quickly figure out what's going on, since it's quite visually dense, with a lot of things going on in a panel and no space between panels. Maybe you could try emphasizing important elements in a panel (such as characters) with thicker outlines? Overall, great dialogue and characters, just not really my kind of comic.

@TheFalseVyper, the opening is striking, and the art is solid. That's a remarkably evil witch for sure. Personally, I'm not that into high fantasy when it comes to comics, and I also prefer comics that are on the lighthearted side of things. For the kind of dark fantasy you're going for, though, you seem to be doing really well! You clearly have a sincere approach to the themes you're dealing with, and it's a compelling story. Maybe the intro was a bit too dark? It does set up the plot and the villain, so it's not gratuitous, but it's fairly long and brutal, so some readers might be put off by it. Personally, I prefer to be eased into a setting before it gets grim, but that might be just me.

@DaniBoy, your comic is probably one of the most visually unique there are on Tapas. The way you work with colour pencils really is gorgeous, and makes things look alive and three-dimensional in a sculptural kind of way. The prologue is engaging, but given its bleak tone, it's probably good that it only goes on for three pages. The characters and the dialogue are psychologically realistic, and the story does suck you in. It's quite serious, more of a graphic novel than a traditional "comic". Personally, I prefer more lighthearted stories when it comes to comics, so I don't read many graphic novels. That's just a personal preference, though; your work is very impressive.

UrMom 2018-08-24 20:11:04 UTC #8

@TheFalseVyper Well I can't find a reason why I don't want to read your comic. It's actually a pretty entertaining read so far, also Ryma's exaggerated expressions in the beginning were funny, I got a good chuckle... Despite everyone being slaughtered. (Sorry if that wasn't your intention, I'm not the best at being disturbed my stuff) Actually I like how goofy and nonchalant everyone is acting even though there's soooo much death and carnage around them. Good job, keep it up!

@Progg Lol my comic is a bit of the oddball of the bunch, thank you for the compliments! For the prologue I figured it'd be good to keep it short, given I didn't want it to come off as distasteful. There was also the fear of desensitizing readers right off the bat.
I totally understand not being into stuff like that! Drama, especially ones focusing sensitive topics, isn't for everyone. I always thought graphic novels and comics were the same, but I never really thought about it, so it's interesting to see someone saying they're different. If you don't mind me asking, what is the difference between a graphic novel and a comic?
I looked it up, it seems that length and complexity play a factor?

Pandastrophic 2018-08-24 21:04:57 UTC #9

This is a super interesting topic and a creative way to share feedback to eachother.

@Mari This is actually the first time I come across your comic and my first impression is that your art style is so cute! I think the reason why I would not read your comic right now is mainly all due to Tapas website really, like when there is a huge number of pages the scroll bar becomes so tiny and it becomes so hard to get to specific pages once I do start reading or even get to the first page as Tapas takes me to the latest (I think??). However I will actually be reading your comic later in the day on the app since it seems so interesting.

@DaniBoy I've never been too comfortable with NSFW content so I tent to avoid it. Although your art is so detailed and memorable and makes me curious about your story so maybe I'll check out your comic in the future.

I'll leave my comic here as well:

A-weird-girler 2018-08-25 03:37:48 UTC #10

Alright cracks knuckles let's go!

@Mari Every complaint I've had has been said. Either way yours is a good comic!
@TheFalseVyper didn't know you existed until now (or maybe I did, I'm just very forgetful and have short term memory loss) but it's good! Just need some work on the hands
@DaniBoy NSFW just isn't really my cup of tea....hope you understand
@Progg You have an interesting style! Very refreshing to see here!
@Pandastrophic I really like awkward characters so I'll definitely be saving this! Good job!

Here is me. I know it kind of sucks so don't have high expectations on it YET! I'm just a beginner with my first project after all

UrMom 2018-08-25 04:27:15 UTC #11

@Pandastrophic Aww, thank you for considering, I totally understand if you can't get into it with the content! If it helps the most NSFW stuff the comic has so far is a small bit of full nudity, profanity, substance abuse. It's not the typical NSFW aiming for sex and that jazz. If you plan on checking it out, and want to avoid the scene with the nudity (Assuming that would be the main turn off) those pages are marked with a mature rating, pages 15-20 of chapter 1.
The most info you'll really need for that scene is that the MC got drunk and drugged up with his buddies, then lost his clothes. Nothing super special, lol.

@A-weird-girler Of course

Progg 2018-08-25 10:40:43 UTC #12

I'm not sure if there really is a distinction that's been generally agreed upon. In a sense, obviously, graphic novels are a kind of comics. I guess what I meant was the difference between the older style of comics that are primarily focused on entertainment, with commentary and psychology on the side, (such as newspaper comics and Disney comics) and the kind of graphic novels that appeared in the 80s with the primary focus on serious subjects (Such as Maus and Epileptic.). The distinction is a bit blurry, but maybe it's pretty well illustrated by the works of Will Eisner. Spirit was more of a traditional "comic", while the later stuff, like A contract with God is more in the style of graphic novels. ... But I don't really know what I'm talking about.

monotone_ink 2018-08-25 11:31:31 UTC #13

Tell me these things - I need to git gudder

@A-weird-girler
I remember seeing this comic around - I couldn't get in to it, since there wasn't a lot of build up in the beginning of the story, and I was left feeling confused about character relations and the general direction of the story.

@Mari
I didn't feel like reading a grounded slice of life story at the time, and as some may have said already, the formatting was small and difficult to read - the art is quite pleasant though, I might check in on it again.

A-weird-girler 2018-08-25 17:21:38 UTC #14

yeah I guess that's what happens when you're a beginner lol

BobbyjoeX 2018-08-25 18:22:04 UTC #15

I am one person who does not pass on comics easily, i usually stop reading and start back up later but i'll try to put some things in, if i can Comment on @Mari's i would say that a lot of people have already said it so why repeat it but i will say i'll continue reading out of curiousity of the story

As for @TheFalseVyper i may have to read it again since i remember reading it but i dont remember much xD

@Daniboy, i have not read the beginning of your comic XD, i havent gotten around to starting over instead of where the diner scene left off.

the other's im still on top of or never read

here's my comic, i can probably see why ppl would pass on it but thats my thoughts

audratki 2018-08-25 20:32:32 UTC #16

I've read some more of these in here.

@TheFalseVyper, I read it all so I haven't fully passed on it yet but I have not subbed on it. I find that there were so many updates over such a long period of time and nothing really happened. I'm not sure if it's because there's only one page per update so I felt like I was constantly going to the next episode or if there just isn't much to get invested in yet. The POV is Viper but I'm more invested in Remy because we've seen her much more. There's a new hot wolf so that may change so if I wander pass your comic again I'll play catch up on it but I'm not up for subbing it and getting a notification every update.

@DaniBoy, I'm all for NSFW so I hopped on that. IYour art is phenomenal. I really like it. You have the one page updates but I did not feel the same frustrations that I felt reading Vyper's comic, maybe it's because you have many more characters. I'm not sure what the difference was. I ended up subbing yours and will follow your future updates. I enjoy reading your episode notes too.

@Progg, I couldn't get past the first page. There's too much going on with it since you choose comic book style instead of a web-scrolling format. Way too much text for my liking as well, but again too many panels would be on my screen at one time so I just dreaded reading it all.

@Pandastrophic, I subbed you... I really like this comic a lot. I've always passed on reading it because the thumbnail tells me it's a straight romance story and I tend to avoid reading romance because they are typically like the stories that Hana writes. This one, however, is totally not a typical romance so thanks for posting here. Now, I think your spelling errors are super cute but in case you didn't know about it (toke is took, favouret is favourite, cought is caught, thank is thought). There were more but those are the ones I can remember still. Personally, I think you should enter this story in the Webtoon contest (if you can in time). I think this is content they would choose.

NiKons 2018-08-25 20:42:10 UTC #17

Such an interesting thread! I'm new and prone to mistakes (lol) so I would love to hear your reasons for not wanting to read my comic!~
The Secret of Death

Pandastrophic 2018-08-25 21:24:11 UTC #18

@DaniBoy Thank you for clarifying that! Honestly I sometimes feel like NSFW can be a really general tag and I tend to avoid it unless the comic was recommended to me.

@audratki Lool yeah i guess my thumbnail can seem that way! and I know of the spelling mistakes, sometimes I tend to write and automatically spell things wrong because I'm so used to spelling them wrong for so long! hopefully my spelling errors got better in later eps but there will always be an occasional typo. I'm slowly going back and making text edits to older eps (fixing font + spelling) but once I'm completely done I'll post it in one go.
Since my comic is not new to webtoon I don't think I can submit it for the contest unfortunately.

audratki 2018-08-25 21:51:18 UTC #19

My understanding is that you can if you repost it under a challenge link.

Here's the excerpt -
Any comic episode that was previously published or made public may be submitted provided that there are no third-party agreements or engagements that prohibit its publication through WEBTOON or this Contest. Violation of this provision may result in the disqualification of the subject entry, nullification of any prizes awarded for the entry, and removal of the entry from its platform.

ryoko 2018-08-26 00:23:23 UTC #20

@TheFalseVyper I feel dumb because your comic has been on here for quite a while and I just noticed it :-= Subbed now! I'm really enjoying the art style and I love longer fantasies The way you are able to do hair is amazing, too.

@Mari: I have read some of your comic and think the art is lovely, but it's not the type of story I generally read. That's not a bad thing, it's just my tastes run more to Fantasy since my life is too full of reality sometimes.

@monotone_ink The style of your art really works well with the mood of your story and given the comments from your readers, it seems to really resonate with them, too. I'm intrigued to see where it goes, so added!

@DaniBoy The way you use the NSFW material in your comic is well thought out and makes the story uncomfortably real. Again, in the same way as Mari's comic, yours puts real life in the spotlight and I tend to steer away from those kind of stories, but that's just my preference and doesn't reflect on the fact I think your comic is well drawn.

@Pandastrophic I think a lot of people want to and do read your comic ^_^ I haven't actually seen your comic before, but I can't check very often to see what's fresh except when I wake up before going to work and when I get home. I started reading at kept scrolling. It's pretty entertaining and going to take me a while to get through. So far though, I'm enjoying the sweet awkwardness of Mihai.

Here's mine. It's very long so far..