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Jul 2021

I agree with your last bullet. I only allow that if and only readers like me will sooner realize that the MCs are in deep trouble. Like the creator was so great that s/he can trick both readers and characters into misleading paths of the masterpiece. The ones that do unexpected but superb elements of surprise.

So much I was glad to read and be aware of ahead of time! Very grateful to stumble upon this topic

It's rare for me to drop a work but when I do, it's for the following reasons:

-creator adding their fetish into the work (sorry, it's always glaringly obvious and uncomfortable)
-characters/plot having no development (someone else mentioned this, I'm sorry but I can't wait twenty chapters for things to happen if the characters are literally sitting around)
-story plot not making any sense after awhile
-one-dimensional characters (ie bad guy bad because evil, softie who does no wrong but gets beaten up by everyone, mysterious guy mysterious because reasons, etc - boring)

:laughing:

I remember reading a comic on Webtoon and it was a pretty fun super hero ordeal... and then a character just started using gay as an insult. A main character. The only main character of color if I remember correctly. Yeah, I have no patience for that, I noted right out of there.

it is rare to see this when most BL that I have read are in a realistic world, I rarely finish them until the end because 2 main reasons:
-The 2 main leads are basically the only characters and even when it is an anime or manga, the characters become boring and repetitive, because the author just looks for excuses for them to be horny trying to be "unpredictable" doing stuff in different places, the rest of the cast are just a distraction or an obstacle for the relationship, and these characters cannot exist by themself, they only can exist to kiss each other and more.
-The author just disappears for a long time, or never returns.

I stop reading comics when:
-The Characters are annoying in any way, if they only exist to be annoying, I don't care if the story is a masterpiece and the artstyle is perfect. if the character is annoying or becomes annoying for any excuse, I'm done, -1 star. I'm talking about the main lead.
-Missunderstanding: Ok, it does happen, but come on! Why does nobody want to write a realistic or even reasonable way to deal with misunderstanding? Characters become jerks just because of "plot" it doesn't matter if they were BEST FRIENDS they won't even talk to each other just because "we need conflict", it is annoying and insulting, I quit if I find this kind of situation,

I know working on online comics is slow work, so I try to give comics a chance to prove themselves in the long run but sometimes it's just better to drop it. Usually it's because...

  • Too much infodumbing. Like others have mentioned, it is not the best way to show information to the readers. I can understand a scene or two that feel a bit information heavy but more than that and it can feel like the characters are only there to deliver exposition.
  • Flat MCs. I need to have curiosity and be interested in the main characters for the story to be worth reading. Unfortunately sometimes some characters start out as interesting but then they start to feel more like a cardboard mannequin that the story is happening to.
  • Sudden shift to romance. Look, I am not opposed to a well written romance and sometimes I quite prefer reading them. I like both Jurassic Park and Pride & Prejudice, but if I start reading Jurassic Park I don't suddenly want it to be about who's the most handsome bachelor in the neighbourhood. I want to know what's happening with the dinosaurs!
  • Reboots. This is a rare one but sometimes a comic maker will decide to redraw and possibly even rewrite their comic from the start. I was already invested in the story, so I'd rather see it move forward rather than backwards, so a reboot is an instant drop for me personally. (I don't mind redoing some scenes or redrawing a first chapter or something smaller like that.)

I love topics like these, since they read like a big list of 'things to watch out for' when creating my comic! I love how TV shows like Avatar manage to combine heaps of different story elements in a really cohesive way. Like, Blue Star Rebellion is gonna have some romance, but balancing that, so it doesn't deviate too much from the plot, will be really important. Same with balancing heavier, sadder moments with light, fun things; balancing character-building filler scenes with straight plot-progression; and making sure my pacing, while on the slower side, doesn't stall completely because I got too wrapped up in tonal moments.

For me, my turn-offs are:

  • Plots which revolve around a contrived misunderstanding. It's not that hard to just TALK to each other! Or for characters to treat each other, especially if they're friends, with good faith.
  • Flat characters. I'm so done with the 'reader stand-in' flat MC. One of the main reasons why a lot of YA fiction doesn't appeal to me anymore, despite the fact that I used to love it, and still return to my favourites constantly as an adult.
  • Really annoying MC's. I can deal with an MC being a bit of an ass at first, but if their whole personality is wrapped up in that, it gets tiresome.
  • Confusing panelling. If it's a chore to read, I'll probably stop reading it.
  • Contrived world-building. It's not enough to say 'society hates this character because they're 'X'. If the author can't explain why that feature is so hated, beyond 'society is just prejudiced', it falls totally flat. My partner is a sociologist, and from living with him these past five years, I just can't deal with plots which revolve around such shallow understanding of how societies and cultures function. It ruins the immersion.
  • Lack of character moments. I love episodes which deviate from the plot to provide little moments between characters which demonstrate close bonds between them. (I've just finished working on one of those.) Little moments of conversation, like two characters shooting the breeze in a bar, or a group of friends teasing each other and having a laugh - those make me care about the characters, which is a prerequisite for me caring about anything else.
  • The pacing is too fast. This ties in with the above. If a story is only showing me plot, and it's not giving me any reason to care about the characters, I'm not going to care about any of it.

Not something related to the story itself, but this made me drop a few comics:

When instead of uploading new comics the author uploads fan art for months on end. Uploading fan art is cool, and I get it when you can't upload every month (happened to me just now), but when it gets to the point that most of the entries on your comic are fan art I take issue.

Hmmm I'll try and be gentle with this, considering creators reading this could be hurt.

  • Reboots: I understand that sometimes a creator isn't happy with the way their story is going. But when a story gets rebooted (or several times for that matter) it gets harder for me to invest myself into it.

  • If the author is a terrible person I may stop reading their story, even if it is good

It's usually one or more out of:

  • The setup was amazing, but as soon as we got through the setup where the premise of the story is established, the entire thing just stalled and started treading water. Usually a sign that the creator had an amazing idea for a story but...er... never actually thought of a story, and even if they do have some idea of what an ending would be, nothing is making progress towards that; it becomes like reading a string of fluff fanfics where the characters just sort of doss around, flirt coyly, have the same misunderstandings over and over again and just generally it's not going anywhere.

  • It was paced wrong for the format. I love a meaty novel or graphic novel, and I love the space they have to really sink into the atmosphere. In a graphic novel a character can linger in front of a door for a few pages, mustering up the courage to knock and then not do so.... But pull that on me in a webcomic and I'm annoyed. If you're updating a page per week and you want me to stay interested while the character stands in front of a door for three weeks then walks away, you're definitely underestimating how many other things I will happily start reading instead of your comic.

  • It stopped being the thing I liked. A good example of a comic I loved and then realised after years was bringing me no joy was The Order of the Stick. It started out as a funny gag comic about 3.5 edition D&D (back when that was the new edition so the jokes were fresh) that occasionally hinted at further character depth and had just enough deeper character story while maintaining a fairly light tone. After a number of years though, the serious storylines completely took over, and I realised I just didn't really care about it any more.

  • I stopped being a person who was into that. Sometimes a webcomic can go on so long that you change as a person so much it's just not your jam any more! It happens! I was a die-hard Megatokyo fan as a teenager, but I'm pretty much indifferent to it now.

  • The creator did or said something really bad or even directly treated me or somebody I care about badly. Yikes. :sweat_01:

Most of the time I stop reading something either because I'm reading too much shit and I can't keep up anymore, or it got boring lol

Mainly it's when I can't stand the characters or the plot, and if something I don't want to read about happens. Or it's an overt Pity-Sue. Or it's overloaded with information I don't need.

I have a criminally short attention span, so it's generally because the pacing was too short, or a particular arc was dragging out too long, or it started to feel repetitive. But, I also have high standards despite my short attention span, so I have also dropped things strictly because the plot twist was just too much and out of character, or it felt like the twist wasn't the result of foreshadowing, but patting some putty over some plot holes.

'insert name is not your average girl.'

I just stop reading stories when thhey start like this.

Heh, I am the opposite. I ignore the stories about the average girls a lot. Heh, at least we balance each-other out.

I think for me I unsub from a comic usually for one of two reasons:

The story doesn't go anywhere: If you are on episode 170 and your main character has done absolutely nothing but follow around her crush and only talk to him twice and feel bad for herself, with no other character interaction... yah, that's boring.

The creator deleted the toon and keeps re-booting it: this is a huge super irritating trend on webtoons right now, especially with isekai genre comics. So, a creator will make a comic for about 30 episodes, build an audience, and then delete all the episodes and start over with a similar new comic. So it makes it look like you have thousands of subscribers with only 3 episodes, but they are left over from the previous comic. I honestly don't want to keep re-reading the same comic over and over with minor changes, especially when its an attention grab.

8 days later

You know I never really put much thought into how some projects have so many views/subs with so few posts....Thank you, it makes sense now and I feel dumb for not catching onto that lol. I'm sure some are legit and they are just great works. But I will definitely 2nd guess those kinds of numbers when I see those numbers in future lol.