AI for writing and art

[river121693]

I’m of 2 minds about it, mostly negative.

If it’s an accessible tool then there’s a lot of great benefits for folks who do not have the access and time to practice art/ to be creative.

The issue is it’s most likely will just be accessible to tech bros and corporations, and it will alter the role of the artists and the jobs that are available with the “market”. Outside of the market, art is fundamentally healing and fun and people will always want to try the craft of it.

Ultimately it’s not the tech itself right? Just the way that it’s being regulated and who has access to in under capitalism. It’s an issue of labor. The only way to deal with the unethical nature of it (art theft, wages etc) is probably through asking for regulations, unionization etc. Which is tough for artists since we haven’t even been afford more basic labor rights compare to other job fields

[Lensing]

The problem is that the consumer doesn´t care about ethics, they want it fast and they want it for free.
Just look at the music business and streaming and what the average consumer thinks about it

[river121693]

ya, it's even worse for artists because our work is often behind-the-scene and muddled by things like contracts. I mean, we didn't even know about the shitty Webtoon and Marvel CGI artists stuff until recently when creators risked their livelihood to speak up.

[Lensing]

Musician in 2022 is the worst.
I used to have a recording studio and I was a touring
musician. Both jobs don´t exist anymore. I could do
it as a hobby but it´s an too expensive hobby

[bloodstained.skies]

It helps me when I don't have idea how to design something. For example I want to draw "a big space station with tall, silver towers and huge gardens" but I can't visualise it so I use AI to gather my thoughts and ideas. Then I draw the rest by myself. I recommend "Nightcafe"

[TroyVSTheWorld]

I recommend "Nightcafe"

I forgot all about this site! I've still got a whole bunch of old prompts up on that site before I got into comicking. I liked trying to make it do weird, abstract/psychedelic robot stuff, and I realize with my 42 credits I could mess around with these a lot. I liked using the word 'radical' in my prompts. Radical Wonderland seems like it could inspire at least something in someone.

Funny enough, looking through some of these auto-prompts, I see a lot of artist names and I can actually just look up their actual work.

[Lensing]

I copy pasted halve of one of my scripts into some writing AI´s to see if it works and to see the result.
It gave me some really good ideas how I could change the story.
For me it´s nothing else but a fast and efficient way to reference already existing stories and
then rewrite / finetune it.
The memory and logic of the AI will be more developed in the future, you will be able
to feed character information, relationships between the characters etc
and then the AI will create some story ideas to choose from. I would definitely
try it out and I find the thought quite inspiring.
And in the meantime I hope they develope a color flatting AI

[Kelheor]

Funny enough I think they already have a flatting AI! I think quite a few people mentioned the site like this on the forum too. Except the page size was pretty small or something like that. Not really sure how good of a job it was doing, never tried it myself.

[Lensing]

Clip will have that in the future, as well as tools to fix anatomy, proportions, perspective efc.
It´s a personal decision to use that or not. There is a danger of art looking lifeless when
you use too many tools. The same like autotune in music. Modern recordings which
don´t use autotune are the exception. There are many other tools for music production
which all lead to "perfect" examples which sound dead to my ears. And then there are
people who try to add dirt into the productions later on because they realise that it sounds
better. For me this is crazy because I still love to record live, the whole band in one room,
with one microphone. But to each their own. Sorry off topic.

I remember reading something like that and that someone wrote that it didn´t work with
gaps. I tried around with autocolor function in clip and I think it´s one of those functions
like the one where you a reference and it recreates it with a mannequin. It doesn´t really work

[candiedcotton]

You can usually tell when people who aren't too good with anatomy use the models for Clip Studio. I've noticed that a lot lately and it's... weird. It's hard to explain but there's something jarring about it. I think the models are great for reference, but you really gotta understand anatomy to use them effectively.

[Lensing]

I agree, the traced over clip models look stiff, traced pictures look stiff to me too.
They used to trace a lot in the 1950s for those mass production romance comics.
I sometimes trace over poses and then redraw them in my stlye. That´s something
I can recommend to people who use 3d models. It has a lot of advantages,
you learn something, it´s more creative, you can make it dynamic and you can
develop your own style.

[candiedcotton]

Totally agree. And I think part of it is that it looks right-- for a doll-- but looks weird for a real person? Like there's no weight to them or natural creases where there should be.

I've done trace over studies before, but I think that is fairly normal. Like if I'm studying a certain angle to the spine and hips and I can't seem to get it right, I'll run some lines over the reference figure so I can visualize the curve better. Or when I used to study portraits (because for some self-abusing reason I was really into realism) I'd run lines over the major points of interest for the same reason. Just helps for visualizing spaces and angles.

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