Artist attitude - pet peeves?

[LordVincent]

Wow uhm... It's not very kind to put a thing in this thread with a timing that makes it very clear who you're talking about, just saying... Especially since there's pretty much only one well known creator on this platform who does the very thing you describe.

This thread at its very essence runs the risk of making people feel attacked, so anything we can do to avoid that happening is probably for the better?

[Wumbl]

The only creators I have a genuine problem with are manipulative ones that try to deflect meaningful criticism. I've had honest art review content threatened with legal action because the artist didn't like that I pointed out the problems and suggested improvements. It's ridiculous.
It comes from having an inflated ego I guess. People feel like they don't have room to improve at all, when really you'll be improving for as long as you are drawing.

[Momomori]

guilty ;;
at least i stopped doing that

[erma]

One pet peeve I have is when a creator uses someone else's accomplishments to turn their lives into a pity party. I mainly saw this when I started college and we were all building portfolios.

What I mean by this is: an artist does a project that they're happy with, so they post it online or show their friends at school as they normally would. I've seen and experienced instances where someone will turn the whole situation around to be about them. They'll say stuff like "too bad ill never be able to do that" or "hahaha, you're so lucky to have enough talent to do that, and then there's just me." So then the artist feels guilty even though it was never their intention to make someone feel bad about their own skills.

I personally believe everyone is capable of improving their work and it's frustrating when, instead of trying to improve, they make other artists feel bad with self-pitying attitudes.

[Luminosophy]

This happened to me too!! I used to be part of a community of an art blog on tumblr that was like a help desk for artists. People would often submit for critiques and we gave actual technical feedback, not pats on the back. That was the draw for a lot of people coming to us. But you get some people that just go absolutely insane when you point out any flaws, it's like they submitted expecting to get people completely enamored with their work. One threatened me with legal action for daring to do a redline (their uncle is totes a copyright lawyer), and then went and stole an artwork of mine and posted it to their tumblr account as "character adopts" and actually tried selling them.

[Mocha]

I'm not religious by any means but...

I'm pretty sure there's a special place in hell for people like that.

[joe_galindez]

You mean the special hell?

[TheThoughtfulBoxful]

Artists who can't take their own advice!
Which unfortunately is a lot of us

[IdiotWithPencil]

kiwi farm, search lol cows and their you will find the hell of special snowflakes artist and people making fun of all of them XD

closes thing to hell I guess

[DiegoPalacios]

In life people never stops improving as long as they are willing to grow.

That`s why before giving feedback i check how the person asking for feedback handles criticism. ¿Too defensive?, run you fools!, ¿does the person thanks people or give them likes when it comes to constructive criticism?, then that person may be willing to listen.

Also, while i state facts about how to improve i try to be as empathic as possible and avoid saying things in a harsh way, so they know i have good intentions.

[Navi.Hog]

I relate to this a lot. I tell people to draw more but I only do a biweekly release.

[NickRowler]

• the type that bug me the most is the type that tries to create drama then turns around and acts like their audience is the dumb ones for getting upset.

Ex. (Not from tapas): there was an artist who said he wasn't into sports (OK opinion). But he then went on to imply that people who were really into sports were homophobic yet closeted gays because they liked watching contact sports. Mind you the artist who said this was a straight man. People try to call him out on this, he just got nasty, acting like he said nothing wrong.

[dawgofdawgness]

homophobic yet closeted gays

homophobic AND gay. It's a 2-for-1 deal

[joe_galindez]

homophobic AND gay

Studies seem to point that way, but there hasn't been a lot of research in this field.

Homophobic people have a higher chance of being gay, according to science

[Luminosophy]

Studies seem to point that way, but there hasn't been a lot of research in this field.

Wonder if it has to do with this.

Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.[1]

Psychological projection

More as a means of self defense, especially in areas that are heavily religious/ anti-LGBT.

[joe_galindez]

It seems likely. But somebody's gotta find out for sure.

[LordVincent]

...and here I thought it was a well known and often recognized fact in the psychological community that the most hateful of homophobic people are often very likely to be gay people in denial.

It is a psychological response where a deeply grounded wish meets with the "morals" and requirements taught by their social environment, and results in extreme rejection and disgust. Usually extreme disgust of anything implies a very personal connection to that thing, and most of the time people show more hate for something the closer it lies to themselves.

You can't hate anything more than something you yourself have within you, can't get rid of and are constantly told is disgusting and wrong.

Of course not all homophobes are gay. But some of them are bound to be.

[IdiotWithPencil]

and here I thought it was a well known and often recognized fact in the psychological community that the most hateful of homophobic people are often very likely to be gay people in denial.

puts the whole you are homophobic racist misogynistic callers on the internet in perspective eh XD

[joe_galindez]

"I'm secretly a gay black woman?"

[bear1]

Oh, that was one of the mistakes I did. Post too many Fanarts and then whine that my followers only like the fanarts and not my original work
I had to start over again, only concentrating on my original work in order to correct that circumstances...it worked out pretty well tho

But on a related note, I dislike it when artists put down other artist for only creating fanart. Claiming that fanart artists only draw to seek attention and 'fame' while only original artists are the ones making art out of love and dedication. Therefore only they are 'real' artists...
Honestly...nobody has the right to decide who is and who isn't a 'real' artist.
You pick up a pencil and draw, you're an artist. Doesn't matter what or why you draw. The rest is up to you

@topic
Also, I dislike how some artists rip openly on other's Patreon, Ko-Fi or other fundraising accounts/methods. Claiming they are 'selling out' or such...
Once again, it's up to everyone themselves if they draw as a hobby for free or if they seek to get a side income or even make a living from it.
Nobody has the right to judge over it. Besides it doesn't influence anyone's life if ArtistX is making money from his work or not (well, except ArtistX of course XD). So why do people even bother bitching about that? Use your time and energy creating art instead, for goodness sake!