Can we talk about the buying tweets situation? Should artists be concerned?

[Mallory]

AFAIK It's not just twitter that this is happening to. An art thief can make a token out of any webpage and any website so long as it has a unique URL, so just staying off twitter is not the magical way of staying safe. IMO this whole thing needs to go die in a techbro dumpster fire... yes, let's create a "marketplace" for "artists to make money off their art" but not require proof of copyright ownership? Lol k.

[VibrantFox]

honestly this is why i'm amazed that no kind of higher power has stepped in to regulate or shut the whole thing down because it's not really creating any kind of useful form of currency it just looks like it's destabilizing the market (gas prices for example gong haywire after big crypto investments). plus the apparent environmental impact which is an "amazing" decision in the middle of a global climate crisis

[DokiDokiTsuna]

1. No, they can't own your art; they can sell it just like any other art thief can, but they don't own it.

2. You should be worried and spread the word anyway, 'cause this whole situation sucks. Here's a pretty good explanation from someone I follow on Tumblr (https://dokidokitsuna.tumblr.com/post/645208533984542720/nfts-in-plain-english-you-know-what-a-certificate)

3. By the way, apparently ArtStation is jumping on the bandwagon and developing a section of their site to promote NFTs?? So if you were thinking of getting an account with them...don't.

4. Also btw, there are bot accounts going around (on Twitter at least) and turning people's art into these 'tokens'...make sure to block them, and the people who link them, so they can't access your stuff. Here's a thread: https://twitter.com/ZzazzPk/status/1369334302014533632

[Fedriz_Marini]

I do thank you for giving some link in regard, I proceeded to inform my mutuals (the Artist I work with included) and proceed to block all of them!

[joannekwan]

By the way, apparently ArtStation is jumping on the bandwagon and developing a section of their site to promote NFTs?? So if you were thinking of getting an account with them...don't.

They backtracked their decision to move forward on this due to backlash … for now.

A Statement from ArtStation - ArtStation Magazine

[KJWhitten]

I went ahead and spread the word on twitter already. I also blocked all of them, ty for sharing.

[thecrystalrook]

No, you're only buying rights to use the property, not the ownership of the property itself.

Still, the fact that this exists is reason enough to federally register your copyrights to have irrefutable proof that whats your is yours.

[mrtoontastic]

[thedude3445]

lol this tweet was helpful except that I, like half the internet, have my main account blocked by William Shatner so I had to open in incognito to see the information...

https://twitter.com/tokenizedtweets to anyone else blocked by Shatner, this is the account that you are allegedly supposed to block to prevent these token whatever.

This NFT thing will be completely forgotten about in two weeks, so it's not worth worrying about, but just in case I'm wrong I went ahead and blocked it.

[Kaydreamer]

They wouldn't own the art. They'd own the tweet of the art, but not the art itself. You also don't have to worry about copyright, or legal, contracted ownership and rights of use. NTF minting and sale doesn't impact that at all. It's just a unique number attached to a specific digital file.

Beyond that, all of this is way too new to have any kind of meaningful legislation behind it. I'm ambivalent on the whole thing; I think NFT's could be cool once the environmental issues are addressed. (A major positive change in that regard is slated to be implemented sometime in 2022.) But until then, I'm avoiding it. (Those ridiculous GAS fees help squelch any temptation.)

I've blocked the accounts doing tweet minting, and I'd suggest everyone else does so too until there's more clarity as to what 'owning' a minted tweet, or art piece, or whatever, actually means.

[VibrantFox]

sliding in real quick with a tweet/thread that provides a longer nft related blocklist

https://twitter.com/LasciviousFox/status/1369374868832141322

it seems like the safest bet for folks is just locking for a bit and blocking any sus accounts interacting with your content

edit: this account is collecting names and compiling them

https://twitter.com/AntiTokenlist

edit 2: magnificent little block tool has been made by this twitter user and can confirm that it works great

https://twitter.com/JoeSondow/status/1369520460212301824

his thread also links back to the lists mentioned above and through links a google doc that's got an even longer list of these nft accounts compiled. also the block tool can take up to 200 accts at once and there's no need to edit out seperators either, so quick, simple and easy to use

edit 3: one more link that delves into explaining the environmental impact side of things as well as video showing the tech behind it

https://twitter.com/xandrei/status/1369292641637138435

[joannekwan]

They wouldn't own the art. They'd own the tweet of the art, but not the art itself. You also don't have to worry about copyright, or legal, contracted ownership and rights of use.

That doesn't bother me as much. I'd just be right pissed if they do sell my work in their blockchain nonsense for whatever cryptobucks and I get 0 monies.

[Kaydreamer]

Agreed! That's the thing I think is going to require the most urgent legislation; the question of minting and selling another person's creation, be it art, a tweet, a photo or whatever else.

[Iris-Grimoire]

From the article that people are passing around to explain the situation, apparently Etherium keeps promising they'll change to an environment friendly method and postpone it every year; at that rate it's just utterly untrustworthy if something so important just keeps getting ignored.

[Kaydreamer]

I know the article. It raises some good points, but a number of untrue or misleading ones as well. (I tend to read very broadly when forming my stances on topics like this. I also own a little crypto, so I've picked up some knowledge here and there.)

There are technical issues which need to be resolved before Ethereum can move to proof-of-stake. (The environmentally friendly version.) Until recently, those were proving difficult to overcome. However, there are now a number of new currencies running using that system, which are ironing out all those technical issues. Ethereum is finally well-placed to be able to follow through on their move to proof-of-stake next year.

If it gets pushed back again, I'll likely be more cynical. Even so, once the issue is resolved, be it in one year or five, I'd be happy to take another look at whether NFT's would be worth dabbling in. I've nothing against the tech. Just the environmental impacts.

[rajillustration]

I chose a really good time to pull back on twitter then. Wow. But I deffo went and blocked those guys, although I'm sort of still confused at how they can "own" a tweet I wrote anyway. We have to write legal paperwork for that sort of thing or nothing happened. There's no reciepts. Freakin crypto currency, man.

[Ordinaryaverageguy]

I'll sell tweets if they're buying! LOL

[uglygirlnextdoor]

use of a unique bitcoin called NFT. Does this mean someone can own your art on twitter? While I'm not an artist, a friend of mine

NFT is a digital signature. When you post a NFT tweet with a drawing is an ORIGINAL. some who pay it is buying your ORIGINAL work. imagine sorta like a gallery where people buy your paintings. if someone just copy, is no longer the original buy copy number 2.. I am very interested in trying since this is very new and sorta historical. finally digital arts gets the revenue we all sick from canvas arts.

I am not sure myself how it works, how do I add a NFT to my work but defenetly gonna make some art of my novel just for the NFT buyers.

[Iris-Grimoire]

I mean, I'd sell some too(I've got some memes made late at night and rewarding my cringe would be great), but in real cash, not burning a city's worth in electricity for a value that changes all the time and that other people need to pay to even try to get.
That's why it was so enticing at the start, that promise of getting compensation just for having the art, not a commission or a print. But it's just something to make the rich richer, as it always is when someone tries to approach the art community with huge promises(and a hidden investment to get anything out of it), with a bonus of environmental destruction and some big name selfish people.

[VibrantFox]

For the most part so long as you're able to block these accounts or any similar ones to pop up (followers, the people managing the acct, accounts they're following) you'll be okay plus i think there's a possibility for you to be able to send a take down request (though the level of credibility depends)

sorry to bump this but thought it'd be useful to provide this tweet that shares some info in regards to takedowns associated with these nft pages stealing content

https://twitter.com/missveryvery/status/1369452303351095296

also reposting this:

edit 2: magnificent little block tool has been made by this twitter user and can confirm that it works great

https://twitter.com/JoeSondow/status/1369520460212301824

his thread also links back to the lists mentioned above and through links a google doc that's got an even longer list of these nft accounts compiled. also the block tool can take up to 200 accts at once and there's no need to edit out seperators either, so quick, simple and easy to use

edit 3: one more link that delves into explaining the environmental impact side of things as well as video showing the tech behind it

https://twitter.com/xandrei/status/1369292641637138435