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Mar 2023

I just wanted to open a thread for everyone to share their experience on different platforms/Publishers, so it might be able to help new writers on where they might fit.

Some of the ones I have experience with:
Vocal
Blogspot
Wattpad
RoyalRoad
Tapas
WEBTOON
POPComics
Dreame
WebNovel
Inkitt
Amazon (not vella)
FanFiction.net
Toonit
HearMyVoiceLLC
Mythrill

As you can probably guess I've been around the block and DEFFINATELY made some mistakes. Let me explain my experiences with each in the hopes you can find what works for you. These are just my experiences and may not be exactly what you experience.

Vocal: A platform built more for articles. While you can write stories it doesn't have a function to group them for readers to easily find/read. You can earn some quick money at the start with their milestones, but after those initial milestones it can be difficult to earn money. The tipping function is nice and so is being chosen as a feature, but I wouldn't count on it for consistent revenue. It is nice to compete in contests and they do have a subscription service (Vocal+) if you want a higher payout for views (would only recommend if you have a large fan base or you are an influencer of some sort).

Blogspot: It's a website you make that's a blog. Works like a normal website in some ways, but I don't see this one being anything other than an online public diary.

Wattpad: Great place to hone your craft and they do occasionally have contests, but they get works stolen from them ALOT. If you are partial to the story you may need to fight for it. I am unsure if there is a way to make money off the platform other than the constest. Someone else is probably better informed about that.

RoyalRoad: Great place to get loyal fans. It doesn't seem as active as other platforms, but seems to equally share everyone's new work. The algorithm doesn't seem to favor any one group. I don't believe you can make money here, but I could be wrong.

Tapas: Great for webcomics and Novels, but highly saturated and Webcomics get more readers every time. It is possible to make money, but it is extremely difficult and not that high of a payout if you aren't an original. No idea about the original payout as I have not seen that contract.

Webtoon: Comics only. Great place to test out art styles. Highly saturated. Even top comic creators don't make very much (at least according to the documents top creators have shared on TikTok, so unsure how bias that is).

POPComics: Dead. There's no visible updates or traffic from what I can tell. IDK I might have been unlucky, but it really seems dead.

Dreame: Perfect for romance or Werewolf stories. Bad payouts, lose copyright, and some authors have issues getting the money they have earned. The contracts are not at all appealing.

Webnovel: I was approached by an "editor" for them asking to sign a story of mine. I was given a contact. I asked questions and was told not to worry about certain wording RED FLAG. THAT IS A LEGAL DOC. I'M GONNA WORRY.

Inkitt: Similar to RoyalRoad, but if it gains enough popularity they might publish a physical copy.

Amazon: Self-publishing... I could go on for days about the pros and cons. For that I would recommend you just look up how people self-publish on amazon. This is not the same as Vella.

FanFiction.net: Great place to hone your craft, especially if English is not your native language and you are trying to learn (I've seen some stories like that). No chance at revenue, purely for hobby. I have heard of story theft on there, but I haven't seen it, so take that with a grain of salt.

Toonit: Webcomics only. They give 3D assets for those that can't draw, but they do have subscription levels for said assets. I was part of beta, lot of growing. Could not make my story at the start (no assets I needed) and very long load times for anything (I have a top of the line computer it was not my machine that was having issues). I eventually gave up and have been waiting for their official release (just happened) to see if anything has changed. I haven't had the time to go back to see what's happened, but it might be worth it for some authors. They also have a discord, but some of it is in another lanuage. Understandable as they are based out of South Korea (I think).

HearMyVoiceLLC: An inide traditional publisher. They mostly focus on kid authors (give them a springboard into publishing and some school partnered projects), but they do have some adult writers. It is small, but they do their best to be a publisher and are slowly growing. Everything about them is the typical publisher experience except the revenue cut (much higher than most traditional pub because they are new and indie). Since they are new the marketing doesn't reach as far, but every day they reach a bit more people. Super understanding if you need time to write. They would prefer completed works, but will look at authors who aren't done with their book yet.

Mythrill: Episodic Novels and LitRPG no comics. This is a very new platform (not a year old yet), so there are still growing pains like not as many viewers as other platforms (but rapidly growing) and there's no author platform yet (they are working on one, but for now they default to google docs). They also have limited formatting, but recently added more options (even more options will be coming soon). You also have to go through an application process to be an author with them. However, you keep the copyright to your story (the contract states they are leasing the rights for a set amount of time), but you can't have the story up anywhere else. They want exclusive stories. They do provide editing (want you to edit some first and they go back over for anything you missed), marketing, marketing materials, data sheets for how your stories are doing, lore card art (lore cards are cards of your characters, items. locations, etc that appear as readers progress), in the case of LitRPG Dynamic cards (these cards stats change as the story progresses think DnD or Isikais where the cards show stats), and story cover art. They also have a discord for the community and one for authors only (after they have been accepted as an author not just applied) to help with bugs, promos, etc. I have made money with this platform. HOWEVER, I am the #2 story, I do have 2 stories with them, and was one of the original 20 authors on launch, so my experience may or may not be the usual.

That's my 2 cents and my experience. Please let me know yours, down below.

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RoyalRoad is LitRPG fan base. Highest earning author I know publishes on RoyalRoad only. They earn a lot... public can be picky...

Your work gets stolen from RoyalRoad but same as Tapas. Scrapper sites pretty much steal from every site except the less known.

Tapas you will thrive as long as you know that most target audience is looking for stories similar to korean novels/manhwa.

Webtoon. You just need good art. Story is secondary. You can even get serialized as long as your art is good. Seen horrible story-telling outside the famous translations webtoons publishes (few canvas authors that get promoted to official authors). Seen lots of canvas with a great story and followers get ignored by webtoons. They care more about art.
Scrapper sites steal a lot.

Wattpad. It is not like it used to be. Now it is extremely hard to get traction. Your novel can be the best but it can go unoticed for months or even years on wattpad.

Blogspot. Just a webpage without owning a webpage. Like you said a diary.

Webnovel. Never publish there! Never ever ever!!!! Contracts take all your intelectual property. Not to mention you only get paid for $200 a month. They require you to publish 1.5k words per day. A max bonus of extra $200 USD a month. So basically, you have to write a book each month for arpund $200 USD and a max amount of $400 USD only if your novel met other requirements.

Amazon. Self promote if you want to sell. You need to have a finished quality product. It should be used in conjunction with other media. Lack further experience.

Yeah, so I was wrong about Royal. Good to see others with more experience posting about it. I don't want to have the only advice on this thread. The twitter post above is pretty interesting, but a little hard to read cuz twitter threads.

Authors there make money using patreon. So that's a really important detail. But the fans are crazy loyal like you said paying lots of money per month.

I completely forgot about patreon. I had limited success, but I stopped it because I was switching from comic to novel. Now it's just easier to go through my publishers. Kudus to those that do well with it, its a lot of work.

I've shopped around on a lot of platforms. I really think it depends on what you want to write and what your endgame is. If you want self-publish, you're better off going with platforms like Amazon KDP or Barnes and Noble. The process is similar for publishing on both platforms and you get to keep your rights.

Vella, for those in the States, behaves like any other serial fiction platform. You upload a chapter to the platform between 600-5000 words. It's "guaranteed" money. If someone pays to unlock a chapter, you get credited the royalty for it. No $25 payment limit before you can get paid.

From what little I know, bad boy/good girl romances and related subgenres (mafia, werewolf, etc.) are still popular there, along with KPop RPF (real-person fic) and other forms of fanfic. It's the most diverse I've seen in terms of language. There's a few other languages than English where it's possible to gain traction.

Searchability on the site is not the best, but it seems to have improved since the last time I used it. Still no way to see for newest updates unless you're searching by specific tags. No ability to schedule chapters (not even on Premium. What is it even for?) Extremely difficult to promote/network with other writers since the forums shut down in mid-2020.

Of the sites I've tried, it's the one most reliant on writing what's popular. You kind of need a built-in audience before you start posting because there's so few ways to get noticed.


LitRPG and Fantasy with strong elements of progression are most popular there. Common anime/light novel elements like isekai are also a plus. Heavy focus on romance is a minus. However, it's not impossible to gain traction even if you're writing less popular genres. While there's no way to make money through the site itself, there are built-in ways to link your story to Patreon and other similar sites.


Fantasy and LGBT+ stuff generally do best here for both comics and novels. For novels, there's a 15,000 character (NOT WORD) limit per update, which depending on the type of story you're writing and how you break up + schedule chapters, this can either work in your story's favor or against it. Since your story only shows up under the first genre you set it as, choosing that genre is very important.


FictionPress: Basically dead when I tried it in 2020-2021. Cumbersome to use too if you didn't grow up posting on Fanfic.net.


Edit: This Twitter thread18 did a pretty thorough look into a lot of web novel websites + I helped fill in some of the gaps.

Wattpad is really predatory, imo. I was on there for a few months before moving over to Tapas. You have to commit yourself fully to their company: join their feedback groups, enter their contests, etc. I noticed too that if you want to enter their paid program, there are more hopes to jump through. I did look into their serial app to compete with Vella, and you can't see any information about their TOS or any payment or rights. I know that it's "invite only" but the lack of information seemed like a red flag to me.

Yeah, no info doesn't sit right with me if there's no one to even ask about it. They are established, they should have someone as the point of contact for questions or at least a FAQ page about it.

I watched a Youtube video about Wattpad's annual "convention". The whole thing had major MLM vibes to me. I'm never going back to Wattpad.

I think both of these posts are good but there needs to be a real solid comprehensive list made somewhere that's easier to read than, well Twitter or a thread in a small forum.

They would need to address what people are looking for in these sites and not just personal experience because what one person finds inexcusable another will see as just the price of doing business. It's a lot of hard work for something without a safe home in a field that is always changing, so I can't see it ever happening.

I admit this is selfish of me because I'm still looking for a suitable platform my stuff and so far nothing is fitting the bill. If wishes were horses...

Those lists do exist. You just search them on google. They compile multiple experiences and state the reasons why and which websites are predatory. I recently posted a link with such a site in one of the threads here. Kind of lost track which thread but as you can guess predatory companies is not a rare topic but with good reason.

Point is sites explaining such things are a click away.

I think OP should maybe be a bit more open about a vested interest here. According to LinkedIn, she's an employee of Mythrill, and from her posting habits, it seems pretty transparent that she's on this forum to market the platform.

Also, during my digging, I discovered that Mythrill uses AI for making the artwork for their various covers and "Lore Cards", which is a hidden factor that may potentially impact decisions. Tapas, of course, has recently banned all use of AI for art on covers and comics for both ethical concerns, but also the muddiness of copyright around it.

I also notice, that unlike Tapas, where you can withdraw earnings at $25, Mythrill it's double that; you need to accumulate $50 to withdraw... That's quite a lot for a novel, especially on a platform that's currently really hard to find on Google. Probably a lot easier currently for creators with a large presence online who can act as brand ambassadors and try to draw people to the platform... like OP appears to be doing here.... (bit cheeky... and against forum rules. The mods are lenient, but I feel like the sheer amount is taking the piss now).

Tapas contracts are pretty good (speaking from personal experience), but usually need a very big readership to get or to make them work. You keep all the rights to the IP. You're allowed to post to other platforms unless it's a "Tapas Original" series made explicitly for the platform. Making money from the contracts does require a very large audience, but because it has a tipping system with ink, you can actually make a fair bit of cash from the site if you have a medium-sized following, and highly engaged reader base. I've made somewhere close to $800 on Tapas over the few years I've been making my comic, which presently just hit 2500 subs. I make more on top of that from my Patreon, and the recent print book kickstarter.

Like most platforms, Tapas works best if you make or customise your work to fit in with what performs well here specifically. You definitely need to be making something with a core audience in the late teens to mid twenties region, and because it's more like a comics platform that also has novels, you need strong presentation that would appeal to somebody who likes modern webcomics or east asian "Light Novels", so colourful illustrated covers focused on appealing characters with polished typography tend to perform well. I know some people who have a colourful illustrated cover on Tapas, and then a moody photo-montage type one on Radish for the same book. Tapas readers like short chapters and stories that get started quickly with a strong "elevator pitch" type concept, and they like a focus on characters and emotional drama or conflict over physical or political-focused plots. Fantasy is a popular genre, but is dominated by Isekai because of the appeal of a "relateable" young protagonist from our world and the ease of exposition that facilitates, and Fantasy with a strong Romance element tends to perform best.
An advantage of Tapas is that because the strongest promo is internal features on the app itself, it's less reliant than a lot of platforms on being well-known or having an established fanbase. If you make something very polished, and very suited to the platform and get noticed by the staff, you can hypothetically blow up here out of nowhere.

Some platforms do the quality vetting and making your work fit in for you, like Mythrill, where they'll only let you in if they think your work will perform well (like a traditional publisher. Radish does this too), and then giving you art in a style that's on-brand and they feel will appeal to the app userbase (Radish doesn't do this). On Tapas, its up to you to do the work of trying to figure out what to upload, how to present and describe it etc. which a lot of people seem to struggle with. A bit of branding-savvy goes a long way on an open platform like this.

I was transparent. If you care to look I put I was a CONTRACTED author. It says so on LinkedIn. I have said this above as well and even said my experience may not be the usual due to the success of one of my stories. I’m not a brand ambassador. I don’t get paid for that. I only get paid for my stories. I market myself cuz hi, I’m an award nominated singer, author, model, and more. I said it was new, not a year old. Kinda obvious it’s not the easiest to find since all the other platforms have YEARS of postings and content. I don’t know about the AI artwork personally, so I can’t speak on that. I personally have seen sketches evolve into lore cards. If they use AI they must use to assist, but not for the whole thing since you know I have sketches of my lore cards. They also have a team of artists the author works with, but I guess they’re BOTs right? The emails and discord chats are fake right? I shared my experience with various platforms I have been on and offered for others to share with different platforms. This is a thread to help new authors to decide what is best for them or did you completely ignore everything else I said? There are plenty of threads that pop up with people from WEBTOON, Royal road, and more. I don’t know what your deal is but if your gonna research maybe do it right? Or you know ask questions because I’ve answered every question I’ve been presented.

No, I was actually noticing everything you said in all the various threads the past few days where you've been plugging Mythrill. Often in threads where it really wasn't related to the thread topic. Even in this one, you're trying to frame it now that you're caught out, like you're giving an even-handed comparison of what's out there... but you're not. The other sites are often very light on detail, and then suddenly there's this entire sales pitch about Mythrill. It makes it pretty obvious that your aim was to make the comparison look as favourable as possible. The stuff you said about Tapas isn't even factually correct; some of the highest earning works on the site aren't originals, and I know at least one creator whose non-Tapas-Original work makes more money than their Original one.

It doesn't matter that you're not being paid to come to other sites and to espouse the platform. It clearly financially benefits you to build awareness, in order to boost the number of titles on the site, raise awareness among people who are into webnovels, push traffic on the site and app and have more people saying things about it online (in more positive terms than the Reddit threads that came up...) to increase how easy it is to find in searches and how positive the stuff that comes up in searches is.

So I stand by what I said. It's against forum rules, it's cheeky, and it's kind of taking the piss when Tapas are hosting these forums.

They are light because they are my experiences. I clearly stated for other people to share because I don’t know everything and when I was wrong above I stated I didn’t know something. Maybe care to look at my oldest posts on this forum and you’ll find FMK was on Tapas and Webtoon and oh what am I marketing? FMK plus a newer story I made. Again, I market myself. I’m no different than any other author on here. You could say marketing their WEBTOON is being cheeky that they are doing it to benefit themselves. Again maybe do your research the right way or you know ask questions?

You know that marketing your Webtoon is ALSO against the forum rules, right? The mods tolerate it, but you're not meant to.

Maybe do your research? Like the absolute most basic kind of reading the rules of the platform you're on?

I'm saying if it's such a big deal to talk about other platforms why haven't they pulled 50% of the threads on here? Why are you actively going after one person who is trying to have EVERYONE weigh in on different platforms including Tapas to help writers decide what is best for them. Why are you specifically coming on this thread and being belligerent when everyone else is trying to share knowledge? If you've got problems, go somewhere else. This is to share not to be a d*ck.