Does hard work always result to success or is hard work sometimes just that, hard work?

[indagold]

It's the end product that counts. No one gives a damn about how much time you worked, how much blood sweat and tears you put into something, how much money and life savings you blew to make it, if it sucks, well it sucks.

Why do you think so many infamous artists who made terrible pieces of work get defensive about it? It's their baby, their child, they believe they deserve the same respect as those who have talent but do not understand that time and effort does not always equal a good end product.

[LordVincent]

"If it sucks it sucks" correct me if I'm wrong but this makes it sound like you're implying there's a universal definition for what is good and not ^^"
The value of art and stories is very subjective

And "talent" that you speak of is really just the quality a person gains through practice, which is thoughtful hard work and effort. So in that sense, hard work overtime is very likely to result in a good product! ^_^ Hard work at a single occasion in something you're inexperienced with, however, isn't.

[indagold]

correct me if I'm wrong but this makes it sound like you're implying there's a universal definition for what is good and not ^^"

I'm not. I'm heavily implying that time and effort does not equal a good end product. I'm sorry but saying work is subjective to undermine the idea that there's a possibility of someone producing god forbid bad work is rather poor logic. Yes there exists bad work that is bad, yes art is subjective, the world isn't going to fall apart from the seams that people can agree an inferior piece of work exists.

So in that sense, hard work overtime is very likely to result in a good product! ^_^ Hard work at a single occasion in something you're inexperienced with, however, isn't

No, that's not what I said at all. i'm talking about people spend years of their lives, decades practicing to produce art but never improve. Yes hard work can make you improve, but it does not mean it applies to everyone. Some people just don't have the skill sets and hardwork never promises success.

[DMBrigman]

The truth of the world is that hard work does not guarantee success, a lot of it is luck, and knowing the right people. You can do everything "right" and still not see the results you want.

Also, a lot of people think that if they are a good enough artist, make a good enough comic then success will come so they only work on the "craft". But, if no one knows your work exists then that hard work is not enough. It means you have to work hard, but you have to have a plan and work hard in a variety of different areas.

The first step is always deciding what your definition of success is. If it is merely drawing better, then let that guide your hard work, but if it is being well known, then that takes a different type of hard work.

In creative professions I don't think it is good to compare who works harder. Honestly, someone who is an expert and has years of experience makes it all look easy. That I think is why there is this push back against artists wanting to get paid for their work. Once you try to do something creative that is outside your expertise you realize that it really isn't that easy.

A lot of being a modern creative is knowing how to build a fan base and network with other creatives. You can't just sit back and wait for people to find you, you have to actively work to get yourself out there and that takes a skillset that doesn't come naturally to creatives.

[randomladyaj]

How do you personally measure hard work?