LINE Webtoon - Opinions?

[KoalaMari]

Wow I didn't know that. It really is a great opportunity for every webcomic artists out there plus I think it's a great platform to invest in.

[elixiadragmire]

honestly their discovery section works a lot better than Tapastic's trending, popular and fresh section imo.

I'm in total agreement, theres something there that just works I dint know what it is

[respheal]

In a similar vein, SmackJeeves is beta testing a Patreon integration system: http://www.smackjeeves.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=18086

Both are pretty neat and it is pretty cool of Webtoon to show their support for their content creators like that.

[69Michi]

Yep the one and only reason that pushed me to make a Patreon page even though I had planned to wait until my reader base grew even larger haha

[Pandastrophic]

I've always been on the edge about re-joining webtoon but this is just really pushing me to go post there again...;A;

[carloswebcomic]

Too bad that Webtoons has a really restrictive page size limit. Most of my pages are too large for them.

[J.Z.Castillo]

what's their size limit?

[Pandastrophic]

Patreon x webtoon support program launched (subscriber&readership into additional money)

what's their size limit?

It's 800x1280, you can add multiple pages to one episode like here on Tapastic but just cropped smaller. I think you can have up to 20MB of files in total.

[69Michi]

And on top of that you don't have a limit of 40 files to upload. You can have as many as you want, as long as it doesn't exceed 20MB in total! It's pretty cool seeing how I draw my comic in a Webtoon scrolling format and use Photoshop to slice up the art into multiple 1000px height pieces.

[VermillionWorks]

Because I rarely update at LINE I'm afraid to activate this feature there. XD I just expect bad comments or dropouts for some reason. Sorry, still hard to get past the old bad feelings about this site... ^__^; (Plus I'm on a break right now anyway that may be extended by a week...) But maybe I'll consider using this if I decide to change how I update there...

Perhaps Tapastic should consider putting a slightly more advanced Patreon-friendly system like this into the site? They don't even have to donate like they do if the comic becomes popular, necessarily, it'd just be a nice, handy feature to have. =P

[AnnaLandin]

Perhaps Tapastic should consider putting a slightly more advanced Patreon-friendly system like this into the site? They don't even have to donate like they do if the comic becomes popular, necessarily, it'd just be a nice, handy feature to have. =P

This would be nice, yes. Just having a more prominently displayed Patreon-button (perhaps beneat the Subscribe-button on our comics?) would be something! Anything to ease the Tapastic-Patreon transfer, and make it simpler for Tap-readers to support creators directly.

Going as far as Line, and giving additional money, seems like too much to ask for (not even sure how that'd work, honestly), but just something that integrates Patreon a bit more into the site would be lovely. I know there are monetization plans being worked on, but they feel v. heavily geared towards mobile-friendly comics (which is fine! It's what Tapastic does best!), and my comic isn't one of them - and I already have a Patreon up and running. Some way to more easily connect the two would be welcome.

[Michelle]

I would love if Tapastic could do this! Especially considering how "sticky" the userbase here is, it might help encourage patronage if there was a built-in Patreon button like what Line has.

I've only just started using Line, but I really appreciate that the Patron button is included on every page of the comic. I like not having to constantly ask people to support me in the description.

There's some things I like a lot more about Tapastic than Line (like how we actually get comment notifications here... wtf Line?) but Tapastic should seriously take note of some of Line's better features.

[carloswebcomic]

It's 800x1280, you can add multiple pages to one episode like here on Tapastic but just cropped smaller. I think you can have up to 20MB of files in total.

Yeah, a total deal breaker for me. It's archaic and I can't work with those limits.
Maybe they are concerned about storage costs.

[69Michi]

Yea a total height of 1280px is kinda suck. But I think it's because small image files are more friendly for mobile user, which is LINE's main audience. Compare to loading a huge and long image file, it's easier for mobile to load a smaller and shorter image! Also hence why they only allow .jpg

Then again this is just my assumption judging on my experience in creating website.

[madsparrow]

Yeah I've experienced that issue with people down voting and that is something I really like about Tapastic. Since we're not competing anything we tend to be a lot kinder to other artists because we aren't getting petty and competitive. However I've also noticed that series that I really could have worked harder on getting 6 ratings while series that I poured my heart and soul into tend to stay a steady 8.

I personally think that the tweeny atmosphere is because Deviant Art advertises the stuffing out of Webtoon. Like they post about the contests and stuff pretty regularly there and so then all of the young future artists flood into that site and kindof nest there. I think thats a good thing though, I started out on LINE, got a feel for the online comics community and fell in love with it. I wouldn't have found the loving Tapastic community I'm currently in without it and I still get really excited when I read the comments and suggestions on LINE (Because all my series are uploaded to both platforms)

I actually came back here to Update though, Webtoons has a secondary way to pay artists who get popular in the discover category! (while maintaining the ability to upload anywhere). LINE added a button to artist pages that directs to artists patreon accounts and if you gain 3k followers and upload regularly LINE will donate a certain amount to your account! I thought that was pretty neat.

[scythe]

Not having a competitive rating system may make interactions between creators "nicer", but it also gives those same creators very little impetus to improve. Competition is the engine of innovation and improvement.

[AffectedMind]

This would be nice, yes. Just having a more prominently displayed Patreon-button (perhaps beneat the Subscribe-button on our comics?) would be something! Anything to ease the Tapastic-Patreon transfer, and make it simpler for Tap-readers to support creators directly.

I don't think it will ever happen tho. Many were suggesting or even begging for it after SP was declined, but they didn't want to replace the Support button with Patreon button (for some reason I will never understand). It would help creators so much.

I've always been on the edge about re-joining webtoon but this is just really pushing me to go post there again...;A;

I've escaped from webtoons because people were ignoring that I was a human being. I'm thinking about going back tho because at the moment I don't like the direction Tapastic is going and the fact that Line implemented Patreon feature is really neat.

[AnnaLandin]

I don't think it will ever happen tho. Many were suggesting or even begging for it after SP was declined, but they didn't want to replace the Support button with Patreon button (for some reason I will never understand). It would help creators so much.

And that is really, really unfortunate. =( Tapastic isn't the only place where I post my comic - I've got my own website, and also a mirror on Tumblr - it's certainly the most active.

Some better form of direct Patreon integration would help so much. I know they're working on other monetization solutions, but Patreon's already there! So many of us are already using it! I have a hard time seeing a reason NOT to add that button.

If Tapastic is interested in making sure creators can go on creating, then adding that button would be a small thing that goes a really long way.

[zaksimmondshurn]

Apologies if this has already been mentioned by someone else, but do any comics uploaded in US comic page format do alright on LINE?
The only series' that I could see there were vertically scrolling ones.

I'd consider uploading Monstrosity over there, but I'm unsure whether it'd go down well with their audience due to the page format.

[69Michi]

Because LINE is from Korean webtoon NAVER, so most creators there are also Korean, and they are used to the vertically scrolling format that works best for their mobile audiences (I myself also use the same format for my comic). But it doesn't matter if you have the webtoon style scrolling format or the normal comic page, heck, if you want you can just stack up your panel into a vertical scrolling format. It's what the other majority of the comic do like Overdrive (Another popular series in the Discovery section). But you do have to keep in mind of how big your panels and text bubble should be though since the majority of audience on Webtoon use cellphone to access the comics, and too small of a bubble speech could be hard for them to read! (Man, sometimes I even got people saying some of my texts are too small to read LMAO)