Looking for an artist (80% earnings goes to the artist) (closed)

[justme]

closed for now
will be back in ......

[JackOfArtAndProse]

Usually, 50/50 share is a bit offensive to artists, and for a good reason. Artists do a bit more than writers(sometimes a lot more, it depends on what kind of responsibilities each side takes upon themselves), so 60/40 share in favour of artist is considered something of an arbitrary "golden standard". Suggesting 50/50 split can sound like you're not an experienced collaborator, and thus not a good partner for an artist/writer collaboration.

Well, I'm mostly just telling you how your post MIGHT look based on the information that you've given. You'd also need to give way more information on your story, summary, what you're expecting of the artist and what you can and can't do as the webcomic writer. If you can't share these things with your future collaborator(or at least make it all VERY appealing to read), it's very hard for an artist to take a chance on you. Think of it as a show of respect - as long as you don't dutifully make a well-written pitch that would appeal to any artist, you have not learned to write well enough to work with an artist(generally speaking, as rare few people start early and fare pretty well). Collaboration is a game that is ALL ABOUT mutual respect, and at this moment you might need to offer your possible future collaborator more respect than what your initial message implies.

[justme]

thank you very much
i will try my best not to repeat that in future

[silverraven0]

Hi, there's not much information on your thread so maybe try reading this thread down there and edit your post with some more important information added so peoples could be more interested.

I use my procrastination time doing this instead of doing my commission so please don't judge me too much. ;v; So I figure I should just make a guide about ‘How To Make A Good Collaboration And Partnership Offer’ Thread. There's one I found that dated back to the 2015, but I think I should make a new one. :slight_smile: I will be writing what I've known about how to make a thread offer that would make you save your and the potentially interested artists or writers time and picking their inte…

Hope you found your artist fast! ^^

[JackOfArtAndProse]

That's perfectly alright. It looks like you're the humble type, so just take that stuff to heart and work on your writing until you can woo(and convince) artists with it. That's the best way to collaboration. Take it from someone who learned the hard way. :')

PS: Also, if you just put your writing out there and then later write an elaborate pitch in a few places where artists you'd like to work with tend to spend their time, you might notice a few months later that someone dug up your old post and contacted you, being interested about your writing style and desiring to work with you. Just keep at it, mate. Good luck!

[justme]

thank you a lot this information helped me quite greatly

[SleepingPoppy]

What would be helpful is for you to elaborate a bit more on what kind of project you want to have with an artist. Are you interested in particular genres? Do you have any ideas for stories you want to work on? Is it a short term or long term collaboration? Etc. Having an example of your work is great though, and if you're planning to move forward as a writer, I highly suggest writing independently of if your acquire an artist or not. You can practice your craft, and you'll have examples of your work for future collaboration. ;D

@JackOfArtAndProse I'm pretty sure the larger contention has been collaborators that use shared profit as an incentive when they have no history of profitability. And their tendency to conflate that with "paid" projects. I don't agree there's a gold standard for the amount of profit split, especially when you don't know the division of labor. (which isn't to say you can't recommend a 60/40 split, but maybe don't present it as a standard so much as a recommendation?)

[JackOfArtAndProse]

@JackOfArtAndProse I'm pretty sure the larger contention has been collaborators that use shared profit as an incentive when they have no history of profitability. And their tendency to conflate that with "paid" projects. I don't agree there's a gold standard for the amount of profit split, especially when you don't know the division of labor. (which isn't to say you can't recommend a 60/40 split, but maybe don't present it as a standard so much as a recommendation?)

Hum, you present a good point. I'll change my wording into "I wholeheartedly recommend a 60/40 split, and that is malleable depending on how much effort each side puts into the comic".

[JackOfArtAndProse]

@SAAK I would also suggest webcomic writing practice(as in, writing a few complete short scripts). While you will need to practice everything that goes into webcomic writing(panelling, dialogue, panel flow, etc. - youtube is your friend), practicing general script writing will help you see how storytelling works and how each scene flows. Never forget practice. Keep at it, and eventually you will grow a very intuitive understanding of how language works. It takes time, but man... it is SO worth it!

And remember that no amount of youtube videos will help you learn the craft. You need to actually write until that stuff is in your muscle memory and instinctive to you.

[justme]

i will try my best and work on it

[JackOfArtAndProse]

I would suggest not trying to reach perfection, but rather trying to learn enough to be able to consistently create good content. Consistent good content > bad content with a few spikes of "perfection". Also, read more English prose(as in, books). That will help you to see where to go with your writing and how to get better at it.