Looking for collaborator for experimental practice webcomic

[yogapumpkin]

I've always wanted to make a web comic, but its' a huge undertaking.
I have recently had an idea for an experimental way to make a webtoon which could help with work load later down the line. The idea is to use 3d anime character models as lineart for poses/base of the characters.

I will create these models, and I have experience in all areas of writing and art, but I would love to have a collaborator who will be inspired with me to get something done.
Ideally I would like someone who can collaborate parts in general, from deciding and discussing the story and ideas for the comic together, or perhaps someone who could colour what I pass on to them or collaborate artistically.

I do have a currently basic idea for the story which is set on futuristic earth that is polluted whereas mars is a healthy utopia. My initial thoughts was to have a battle royale setting for a chance to win a place on mars.
The main genre would be scifi/action with potentially a secondary genre of BL, but not as the initial/main focus.

New to this forum so I guess I'll keep an eye on this threads to see what peoples thoughts are?

[SpectreFirst]

As a person who's been making 3D comics for several years I'd like to hear quite a few clarifications:

1. First and foremost, how much experience do you have in 3D graphics in general and in making 3D comics in particular? 3D comics require very, and I mean very precise and refined working pipelines because you'll have to process huge amounts of work in a relatively short time-span, do you have these pipelines worked out or this is just an idea?
2. What software you are going to use? In case of 3D graphics and collaborations this is absolutely crucial.
3. You've said that you have experience in “all areas” of working with graphics and comics so, well, can you show a working prototype of your comic like I did in my own collaboration proposal that will show us the estimated art style, expected level of detail and other things like that? This is exactly the case when a couple of pictures will be infinitely more useful than words and what's even more important, it will show that you actually know how much time and work it will require.
4. Another thing that is absolutely crucial is – are you going to turn this into gay porn like you've mentioned in the second half of your proposal or not because this thing alone will be a deal-breaker for most of your potential partners. You can do whatever rocks your boat when you're alone but “BL” niche is a field that most people will refuse to deal with so you have to give a solid yes or no answer to that question.
5. Technically it is also important to have at least some kind of a basic outline to estimate the amount of work but it looks like you don't have one yet so do you have at least a basic pool of reference pictures for characters and, most importantly, environments?
6. Working in collaboration is 50% work and 50% project management, do you have actual experience in working in teams and aggregating data from team members?

[Puck]

What do you think about the idea of creating the pages like you mentioned and then let a collaborator redraw the pages
and use the 3d pages/models as a reference?

I´m interested in the scifi part, not interested in the BL part

[SpectreFirst]

That's pretty much a standard way of a mixed working pipeline – someone writes the story and makes 3d reconstruction drafts which makes writing and planning in general a lot easier since it's a lot easier to move models and cameras around the scenery than redrawing them and then someone else traces the draft and fills in the details that would be too demanding to model. This pipeline utilizes the best from both worlds (flexibility of 3D plus approximation of 2D) but it also requires a certain level of skill in speed modeling and sculpting to be truly effective hence my question about op's actual prowess in that area.

[SleepingPoppy]

are you going to turn this into gay porn like you've mentioned in the second half of your proposal or not

Dude, just ask how mature the romantic content will be instead of making it sound like BL is inherently pornographic. This is such a weird way to put this question.

[yogapumpkin]

@SpectreFirst
I'm sorry you seem far too serious about this for collaboration.
You seemed to miss the point of the word practice in the topic post. I want to make this for practice and for fun.

I also found parts of your reply offensive and inappropriate, I have no need to disclose to you personal information, but if it adds to the point I have absolutely no interest in pornographic material and am in fact asexual myself. Overall, I would not want to collaborate with you, and if anything your replies have just demotivated me from even trying, which is sad.

The only reason I have any interested in any romantic subplot being bl in particular is because I general am not interested in romance unless it reflects marginalized pairings which I want to contribute to normalize in mainstream media, and seeing that makes me feel happy.

[IKI]

Hello, I am actually pretty interested in collaborating artistically on a webcomic with you, I’ve always wanted to practice more as I’m pretty new to making comics.
I’m pretty into sci-fi and I don’t mind at all if the subplot is BL !

Your basic idea for the plot is pretty interesting !

[yogapumpkin]

Hi @IKI that sounds promising, would you like to PM me about what you'd like to bring and I can show you some concepts of my models.
(currently trying to figure out how to do it but haven't found the option yet)

[Puck]

Can you still send me the concepts / models? I´m really interested in how something like that would look like

[Zugaikotsu]

You can do whatever rocks your boat when you're alone but “BL” niche is a field that most people will refuse to deal with so you have to give a solid yes or no answer to that question.

Maybe in your neckbeard bro-dude spaces... but there are other people in the world, ya know...

[SpectreFirst]

I can't really understand if that was directed to me or to the OP but here are some great examples of how mixed pipeline can be implemented:
Environment
Machinery
Human character
Robot character
Most of these examples utilize a very peculiar mix of 2D and 3D because Grease Pencil is a tool made for 2D graphics but it can also be used in 3D space to combine the best from both worlds and in 2.93 there is a new Line Art modifier for Grease Pencil objects that can outline polygonal geometry.

Oh, and there's also a humongous series about making stylized renderings in Eevee but it looks like it's way too complex for any real usage since it would require weeks to create one asset and thus is not suitable for producing an indie comic.

[Puck]

It was directed to the OP but thanks a lot to the informative comment

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