Please do it ASAP.
For some people like me terrible grammar and incorrect use of tense makes me give up.
Again you misread my post which you keep doing, I said i don't expect them to do this unless I was paying them full price. And i do pay for a Grammarly subscription for all my editors. i have a business account that they all share.
That's what every single other professional writer does before they even dare put it to an editor. It's common courtesy to spell check your work minimum.
im not looking for an editor, who changed the name of this post i never siad i was lookign for an editor
I'm also wondering about chapter costs. I noticed that My Vampire System costs 8 coins per chapter to unlock and on Tapas the lowest I've seen was around 40 ink for a very short chapter while many are 100+ per chapter. Not sure how they translate into real money. How are the costs decided?
Can't say as I don't know the coin conversion. I believe 1350 ink is about $1 on Tapas though give or take, which then is divided 50-50 if it's through desktop, or if it's through the app then the app store takes it's cut and the rest is divided 50-50. Novels here are really cheap actually, but it's the sheer numbers that rack up the dough.
Yup it does. Which is why it's always nice to pay on desktop but it doesn't really matter either way.
1. What you seem to be looking for is a proofreader
Proofreader rates are lower than editorial ones in my experience, although that may not hold true for everyone but the reality is 160 - 200 dollars to proofread is waaay too little for the amount of words you claim to be putting out per month
Proofreading isn't just clicking on the red in your work, it's actually correcting your grammar, spelling and ensuring your words flow after the corrections are done
2. You're harming the industry when you offer low amounts
You can say this but at the end of the day someone of your size offering such a low amount will cause other people smaller than you to think they can get away with offering even less. Proofreaders deserve to be paid appropriately, don't offer exploitative rates especially now in the middle of a pandemic while people are worried about where their next paycheck might be coming from.
3. Even if you don't get punished, stealing art is a shitty thing to do
Like you're right you probably won't get caught for stealing Kawacy's art but it is still a shit thing to do and ethically wrong if nothing else. Atlus owns the joker design and probably won't care about some 2 bit writer on an obscure chinese website, but Kawacy who has ownership rights over the art piece itself might care and it's their right to do something about it, especially since you've exposed you knew it wasn't yours and took it because you thought you could get away with it on this very public and cached forum. Not the best legal move ngl.
This isn't really going to change you or anything, I only expect you to respond with "You misunderstand" if you even respond at all but it's for everyone else who reads this to know that you kinda suck for doing things this way. That's all, peace out
[EDIT for his later response]
Kawacy not doing anything doesn't mean jack, he has legal right over the piece itself although not the character.
The job you described is a proofreader and you can't really have one and not the others
Your rate for professionals is irrlevant. Standard rates are for all individuals doing a job be they pro's or not. You're hiring them and should pay them standard rate, your weird designation of professional and non-professional is just you trying to find a way to skirt around the issue of paying them too little. I did read the thread you arrogant individual
So it seems you didn;t read this thread at all.
1 i orginally put proofreader but i don;t even want them to do that. Hence why its less. I odn;t want them to do grammer i don't want them to make sure the words flow. i just want corrections.
2: I pay the standard rates for professinals, in a way i was just asking if thier was any people who would liek to voluinteir and i could give them something a little on the side. Im not expecting anyone to go out of the way.
3: Kawacy did reply, but said if it was up to him he was fine with it, but it would be down to Atlus anyway.
This place ahs now become so toxix. seriously i dont understand what any of you are trying to achieve. I have been in the webcomic and webnvoel industry for so long and have paid litreally i think about 100,000 pounds to auhtors through patreons, through ink donations and through commsions and such.
Im sure some of you have even seen me post sevreal times on here, but its not the readers who use the platform that make it toxic, its the auhtors. No one wonder so many people have left this platform. and i shall be doing the same.
You didn't like being critiqued for your own exploitative practices and for the fact that you're breaking the law by using copyrighted images. Literally, that's not toxic. That's defending our community from people using it to exploit young or inexperienced members who don't know better.
You may have originally put proofreader. I can give you the benefit of the doubt for that but
Your original post used the word edited. Some forum regulars can edit titles so they may have seen that and changed it to editor because it seems like that's what you wanted.
Regardless, the rate you're offering is still extremely low for a proofreader.
Im not plying the vitim its true how toxic this comunity has become, when I litreally just was asking for a service. Everything is there in balck and white. Im not lying, i have been open about everything im requesting form the get to go.
Many of my friends have less this paltform because of this and its why Tapas has seen a decline year after year.
I didn;t even go into the fact that the companny you all hate so much. Is one of the major shareholders in Tapas, Wattpad and nearly everyother litreally platform.
There is a reaosn why you are seeing Qidan, orginal webnovel comics start to appear on Tapas. Such as Release that wicth. Legend of the four beasts and so on.
You're asking for a lot and offering to pay very little when you can apparently afford to pay much more. And you are paying much more, to people who don't really seem like they're worth the money.
We're not calling you out for lying. We're calling you out for breaking Tapas rules for a start - and for being predatory in what you're expecting in return for the renumeration offered.
False. Tapas' userbase is growing year on year.
Tencent is an investor but from what I can see, has no impact on those company's editorial policies, nor their pay or contracts. Being an investor is not the same as steering a site culture.
Yes there is a reason we're seeing them. They've been ethically licensed and translated by Tapas.
"This company is a major stakeholder to X site; therefore, you cannot criticize it!"
Everything is shielded from criticism in Jack Sherwin's world.
Im not saying that, everything has its plus and downs but you seem to be only looking at the downs. I have never said webnovel is the saint of webcomics, Are thier caluses worse then everyone esles. yes i woudl agree they are and this is mainly because they are chinese focused. and thier reply to that is it works in china.
the problem is for Webnovels. (other then Wattpad) Has the biggist audience. And it terms of paying audience Webnovel is far greater then any other Novel site.
WHat i said is the contract is not as bad as it seems because they take single clasues out of context. Like the fact that you have to write or meet a minum word count wich is not true.
There are around i would say 250 authors who are able to make a living off webnovel. So some people can make it work for them. But just cause it wasn;t a sucess for you, dosnet mean it ownt be for eeveryone.
If i had met you before sighning a contract with webnvoel and you had convinced me to not sighn i woudln;t be in the succfeull postion i am today.
I hope you understand that Blaire hawthorne
and i gave already gotten what i came here for
And THAT is the problem. I work in freelance ghostwriting, where commissions generally come with a set rate from clients if you don't provide your own, and this is by far and away the worst rate I have ever seen offered. If it came to me I would report it on site and make sure my network knew to avoid the person who offered it. If you're able to pay an editor $600+, then the Tapas forums would not be where you sourced editorial resources. There's no proof that you do, but if I'm to take your word for it then it begs the question: how can you only pay proofreaders essentially $0.001 per word, over 10x less than entry-level industry standard.
Because that's the problem here. It's not just that you're offering an exploitative rate, it's that you framed yourself as a legitimate industry creator, which means - to someone who does not know artistic industries - you have positioned your rates as fair. When actual professionals have broken down your points, you've jumped to unsubstantiated excuses around your rates, income, network, and copyright usage. One of those is a red flag. All four is a malicious scheme.
To the writers who have been contacted by @JackSherwin do not accept that offer. If you've signed something already, seek legal aid. If you can't, message me and we'll see what we can do. But I would urge anyone who has read this thread to not take this person seriously under any circumstances and to educate yourself whenever you receive an offer from anyone, be they shady or reputable.
Glad someone else did, I wasn't willing to nudge that wall, don't actually know enough.
I knew something was off here but I didn't know enough to put it into words. So thanks!
It baffles me how someone creates a job with the sole intention of hiring people they do not think are professional enough to pay appropriately, all so he can can underpay them hard. It is infuriating to see all those posts that were like "I've messaged you and want to work with you" lol hope none of them actually did
I saw this thread when it first popped up and my immediate reaction was “big ole yikes” but reading the inevitable unfold was a delight.
And as someone who wants to throw their pole in the pond of editing, I learned a lot of do’s and dont’s. I’ve helped a person before from development editing to plain old proofreading and it all can be a nightmare. And I mean “traditionally” published works with blaring typos and weak plot development. If whoever he can find to edit has to deal with tenfold of how these responses are typed up, I’ll light a candle for them