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It takes them to the TOP of the latest episode (sometimes to another episode depending on which episode they read last...). So if they don't see the new content at the top of the episode, they still might not realize it's been updated.

Oh wow!

You're kind of shooting yourself in the foot if you're updating in a way where people don't get the alert. Especially since probably none of the mobile audience sees it if it's not in appearing in bookmarks. And you're not gaining new eyes because you're not appearing in the Fresh section!

the only way I could do that is if I tried to make several pages a week, and with school and all I really don't think that would work

No, I didn't mean that you have grammatical errors. What I meant was that if you simply update and existing chapter adding drawing and pages when people get a notification with the bell instead of the new comic icon people MIGHT think that the update is simply some grammar correction or something and might not give it a full check is all.

oh I see. I just usually don't send the notification if I'm making small changes..

I understand. School and responsibilities take some time. See what works for you in your current situation.

Hope you figure it out!

I usually assume this and rarely check page updates.

The simplest solution I can think of that lets you continue as you are is to create a page that explains something like "New page of Mirror Monster added to Previous Episode!" every time you update.

You can also update less frequently but in batches. Or update in the more typical format. But I think it'd be unwise to change nothing.

*edit: You could also add a small banner at the top of each episode reminding users that new pages will be added and to scroll down to not miss anything. Like "Remember new episodes will continue to be updates here, so scroll down every update!" Or whatever.

When you do things in an unusually way you have to really up your communication game.

One comic I used to follow handled it this way: Every new update was a new episode, so that everyone got a "new episode" notification like normal. Then, after a few updates, they'd combine a bunch of them into one episode, deleting the extras.

To explain in more detail, they would start out updating like this:

  • Episode One: Page 1
  • Episode Two: Page 2
  • Episode Three: Page 3
  • Episode Four: Page 4
  • Episode Five: Page 5

and then edit it like this:

  • Episode One: Page 1-5 (edit the episode to add pages 2, 3, 4, and 5 to it)
  • (Delete Episode Two, Three, Four, and Five)

so that their archive would eventually like sort of like this:

  • Episode One: Page 1-5
  • Episode Two: Page 6-10
  • Episode Three: Page 11-15
  • Episode Four: Page 16
  • Episode Five: Page 17
  • Episode Six: Page 18

and then once they got to page 20, they'd combine 16-20 into Episode Four and delete the extras.

This means they would lose the comments they'd gotten on the episodes that get deleted this way, but to them, it was worth it to keep their archives from having too many episodes -- and they figured the comments had been around long enough that everyone had gotten a chance to read and reply to them.

You don't necessarily have to do that, but it's another option to consider if you don't want to change the way your archive is laid out, but also don't want to lose mobile readers who won't get the edit notifications!

it would be a good idea if the comments wouldn't get deleted. maybe I should just disable them until I combine all of the pages, if I were to do it that way.

It's probably the writing. Your pacing is slowly being dragged. Like your're trying to extend what may already be obvious. And you're dialogue sort of gets muddled with your panel planning. You treat the conversations like movie scenes in terms of format rather than a comic.

could you maybe be more specific on that? I also plan ahead for the chapter I work on so I usually make things the way they are for a reason

Well it feels like your dragging your story a bit by focusing more on the characters rather than the stakes and plot points of the story. I understand that some stories have some banter between characters to add some character development or whatever reason. But you seem to focus on their interactions rather than explain what needs to happen. Now some stories do begin with having the characters interact (with the plot moving in the background). But in those cases, the interactions are appealing. I mean even Josie doesn't seem to have a clear goal in the story. Xenor's personality isn't clear. He's either cheery or boy scout serious. All of this dragged even further by weak dialogue.

And I plan ahead for my comic as well but i usually consider some things to just not be enough, or not work in terms of story telling. You said you don't know why you're losing activity, so you may wanna consider something you planned didn't work despite the reasoning.

I was planning on having more explanations in the after-next chapter since I know the earlier ones were pretty confusing

So you're saying the reasons i laid out, about slipping away from the plot, dialogue, and character development is all because it's a critical plot point?

no, it's because as I said the earlier episodes were pretty unclear, due to me not knowing what I was doing. I'm going to try to clear things up in upcoming chapters, which will involve explanations, less random dialogue and character development.

@ghostieblu hi! I literally just found your comic because you posted the link here. Which means you are not self promoting annoying or anything worthy of being called out! :slight_smile: There are some comics I have seen everywhere, over and over again and I can't blame them for wanting to show their work. Self-promote!
Now...your comic has such amazing quality and has a very distinctive style. I will love to read it and spam you with hearts and comments as soon as I finish my work.

I don't think the idea of making a new episode and delete is dirty to make notifications XD, but that doesn't work. Once I was making trial episodes and as soon as I deleted them Tapas deleted the notification and my comic disappeared from the fresh section. I guess they have that one figured out.

I was uploading my comic by updating the chapters too and my buddy Daknight is right, less people checked it out because they assume the "updates" are just some minor changes and they wait for the new chapter notification. So, maybe page per episode is not that bad.

thanks for the feedback. I think I've already resoled the issue though by making a post on my wall about it, and I'll put up a little reminder at the end of episodes that they'll still be updated

yeah I just assume all "updates" to chapters are art improvements or grammar fixes and literally ignore all of them.

I would stop that and just post new pages when you have new pages. Also everyone on mobile doesn't see the notice for update either...