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I just learned the other day that burning lavender, sage, rosemary was at first though to get rid of the evil "miasma' that floated about and made people ill, but in fact gave off carbolic acid, which kills germs in the air. So, it's not that they were wrong, but they were wrong.

Also, that Spanish Medicine was the most advanced in Europe (and USA) during the time.

If you wanna watch a video about at 1784's Medical Hospital, I got you. It was wildly informative for me.

Thanks :smiley: And yes indeed XD
Also same XD Or it's for some minor detail that no one cares about ... like northern Italian folk music and what traditional songs and pieces were known in the 19th century so I can draw the right melody when a character is asked what their culture sounds like even though I could just draw random notes and literally not a single person would care.
(I do draw random notes sometimes ... a lot actually. But not always. :stuck_out_tongue: )

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Well I was already sold when you said assassin but the eyepatch makes it even cooler. XD :innocent:

Hi there ^^ sorry for my late reply, work was a bit exhausting that week. I'm gonna check out your novel this sunday when I have peace and time :,D

Yeah, I'd love to watch a video about that. See? I'm about to go down this rabbit hole.
Carbolic acid, huh? That's like a thing I guess. I love it when folk medicine turns out to be right. I took an Irish folklore class this winter and the Professor was VERY clear about "DO NOT TRY THESE AT HOME." Obviously, there's an element of psychomosomatic healing to most folk medicine. Drinking out of a bowl of milk after a ferret will not cure your whooping cough, but it might make you feel better on an emotional level, lol.

I was interested to learn that most folk healers were regular people who would show up to your house. They'd swing by when you weren't feeling well and just talk to you. Regardless of actual healing ability, I was like "damn that sounds like a therapist." Apparently that was a big part of the psychosomatic element, just having somebody to talk to.

Omg if you run into any italian folk songs from 1730-1735 you hit me up because that's my time period right there holy SHIT.

I live for those little details, and I don't think you really believe that "not a single person would care." Readers see that shit and even if they dont know what it means they believe "wow that must be real music notes from a real song," lol. Because I've had it work the opposite way...I make shit up and readers are like "wow is this real?" and im like "I couldnt find a direct historical source but I made an educated guess thats probably correct."

By researching the little things, you're building credibility with your audience. Or something like that.

Because of the nature of my piece (the horndog nature. We'll call it thirst-core) the dumb shit I research is like "uhhhhhh did they have spank paddles in 1737? If they did, what were they made out of? Well, Chestnut wood was the default in new england during that time period. Chestnut trees were felled almost to extinction and now they are a protected species. But Klaus said he brought the trunk of sex toys from Europe? So I have to decide where he bought it in Europe. His family is Saxon from Poland but he wouldn't have gone there after the war because in later chapters he says he went through a "ho phase" so its gonna be anywhere else. In chapter X he mentions being a mercenary for the empire at the end of the war so if he stayed on the imperial side he could have gone back to austria, any german state or russia. But he also mentions renting a chateau outside of paris so maybe it's french? BRB researching french manufacturing to find what wood they would have sourced..."
...for a goddamn paddle.

Yay, awesome! Will read it tomorrow, so I can give a bit more in depth description and then do the shout out right away!

I have a promotional banner for mine... Somewhere already posted in here, but I'll link tomorrow again, once I'm less braindead (just wrote 4 episodes from scratch and revised 18, then scheduled them all :upside_down:).

Link me to whatever images you want me to use for yours, if any!

Edit: I'm stupid and didn't link my novel, here.

Oof :sweat_smile: I also need to edit and write 🥲 I’ll DM you the ones I made for promo purposes :sparkles: and I’ll add your story to my list to read so I can do the same :relieved:

Yo, I feel this on a spiritual level.

@liaroger LISTEN, go down your rabbit holes. SOMEONE WILL CARE. I promise.

I got a truly lovely comment the other day for using the historically correct 'stay' instead of a corset, and even went into a mini rant about what specifically was happening and that Ophelia's clothes were NOT to blame for her breathing problems.

My co-creator and I are the type of people who will see the research vortexes people will do and be even MORE into the story. The people that will care with REALLY care, and the people that don't are, meh. It carries so much more weight than you'd think, even if the people who would appreciate don't show up at first. There is nothing better than someone else as frenzied as you are, pointing to your story and going ''yoooooooo, yas, yas yas!"

Lean into your shit. Do it.

D O. I T!

Also, enjoy:
(I've watched this like 3 times already, it may actually start in the middle, whoops)

I'm so happy we are talking about this. Yes, I think readers definitely give a shit and respond to cool historical facts. If you can teach a reader something new, they love that shit. This is from my experience as a reader, but if I hear something fun I might even write it down to research later. Ever stupid small facts have a snowball effect. They build the world of your story. Thats such a cheesy thing to say but its so real.

Like, klaus and magnus wear linen blouses. A few times they wear cotton, and Klaus points out how expensive it is. Theres an intimate scene where klaus tells magnus the fabric for his waistcoat is imported cotton and his waistcoat buttons are made out of abalone shell, which is endangered in the southern british colonies. Then klaus undresses magnus and tosses the waistcoat so hard the abalone buttons scratch the paint on the wall. this tells the reader that even though that waistcoat is fucking expensive, klaus thinks magnus is even more precious. (adorable.) Also that Klaus owns a lot of expensive things and doesnt give a shit about any of them (foreshadowing).

i applaud your choice to use "Stays" instead of corset, but as a former costume historian I must emphasize that its better to build people up than tear them down, and if anyone criticizes you for using a wrong word they are at fault, not you. I have a costume design degree and I worked in a textile museum for two years and I hate it when people on the internet gatekeep fashion history. I miss the days when textile historians got into debates about the origin of sequins. All the youtube videos about "why this movie has the dumbest costumes" and "if you say this term I hate you" are so reductive. I also hate the growing gatekeeping about "sure you made a corset but did you carve your own needles and make your own fabric?" No, Karen. I bought fabric at joanns. But I had a lovely time and I think everyone who makes something should be celebrated. Full stop. I like making historical costumes with fabric that didnt exist in the period because you cant convince me that early gothic princesses wouldn't have chosen pink sequin fabric and maribou feathers if it was an option.

YAS!!!

But like, linen is breathable and also aseptic, and wicks water/sweat away, and like, don't ruin the clothes. Too many people put far too many hours into that for far too little money for the disrespect (also, just learned about that, whoo!)

But yas, yaaass.

Here's my stance, if I had to look up what greaves and pauldrons and what-have-you while reading fantasy as a child, then you all can look up pinafore and petticoat. If you want historical accuracy then you're getting it from all genders. But that is a rant I'm not going to go into right now.

breathes

ANYWHO!

I don't know who needs this info, but since we're all 'Goths' here, Evanescence just released a new album. :tapa_pop:

@liaroger Hey, hey. I sent prelude to my Co-Creator (they're a musician) and they're super curious what/if you play an instrument. I know you had mentioned it, but unless I forgot, I didn't find which. Oh, I should also mention, they're super into music history, too. :slight_smile:

I was gonna put a gif of Amy Lee here, but there are too many good ones. So just...

Here's this instead:

Please go on the rant. Go on it.
Also, I think if you're going to mention a period garment you gotta describe it to me. I think this is like, a rule that only I have.
RULE: if I cant tell what the garment is based on the sentence its in, you gotta explain it.
Also, different fashion historians call garments different things. There are forty words for the fabric that goes around a mans neck in the eighteenth century. It depends on what historian is describing it. The british historians have one word, europeans another, american historians are downright wild and will make shit up. One of the dudes i studied under was against using white gloves while restoring because it impairs you ability to tell when you're damaging the fabric. He was in the camp "just wash your hands." My other professor was the GOAT could look at anything and tell you "thats 1736 because that seam was invented blah blah" (not to flex, but i can do this, too. another reason those youtube videos drive me NUTS. im not out here flexxing on main. I'm nice. I COULD blow up little women, but i dont because the dresses were pretty and that pleases me more than strict historical accuracy, which is a myth because it doesnt exist.)

anyway the GOAT was convinced that the first queen elizabeth was a man. we could not convince her. she also believed that expiration dates were a lie and ate a two month expired yogurt.

You and @blackorchid’s rabbit holes about research make me and my 100+ tabs about 20’s fashion, plumbing, condoms, cars, slang, and old city maps worth it :blusht:

More people who spends hours of research to write one sentence or realize they don’t need it and make it subtextual :raised_hands:

Saw this a while back but I kept forgetting/ getting side-tracked and never replied to this thread xD I'd love to participate in this as well!

Here are my stories!


This sounds fun!
My stories are typically slice of life, slow burn, bl fluff type stuff. I'm interested in promoting some stories in a similar genre. Let me know if you think your story might fit!

My main two stories are