Soooo…Twitter might be shutting down

So you dig up an old post to prove what? That I am or not the guy that doesn't mind lgbt being attacked? If you knew I posted that, why would you think I was attacking them? Just to prove your point? Once again, no one cares as much about you gender as you think. Most of the world has better things to worry about and won't spend 44 billion to attack less than 1% of the population. Move on with your life. Elon doesn't care about you, me, or anyone he doesn't know that much. Stop putting evil intentions to people you don't know.

Attacking? Bro really?

I just disargeed and to tried to explain why talking over minorities is a shitty thing to do

But i guess that's attacking for privileged people

Once again not 1% read a book please. Not daddy Elon book though one from people with thoughts

"Oh and as a straight man, I have never been hit on by them, not once. They are friends."

Likely dug it up to prove you said you had gay friends. That's it.

Anyways, y'all are derailing the thread. Twitter might be going, are there any alternatives that y'all would like to present?

I recommend you to avoid strawmanning people. That only undermines the credibility of your argument no matter how valid it may be.

If you think you are dealing with a straw man let them fall under the weight of their flawed arguments.

yeah, thank you for bringing this up and getting this thread back on track, I think people are getting mad distracted talking about Elons many sins (which there are SO MANY), from the fact that Twitter went from 7,500 employees to 3,700 and it's still dropping. Like it's normal to lose people when you buy a company, and especially if a company is merging with another company and can replace the hires. But this is about one guy who just bought ownership of the company. That was it. All he had to do was NOTHING and he would have been successful. All he had to do was NOTHING.

Like he's being the most abusive boss possible to clear that entire company of human beings. He's doing things far beyond what even legally allowed when it comes to firings and workplace hours, and will be under lawsuits for eons after the dust settles. And right now the computer services team that was 100 people, the team that keeps that site running, is now 4 people. It is incredible that twitter is still running, but can it just cut out? Yes. But I have seen valid social media websites become graveyards for less.

And like I've been on that website for 10 years, with other accounts (my current is only a year old) but this isn't the first time I lost an art social media site, nor will it be the last time. Did twitter get me some sales? yes. But it's time to leave twitter.

Lately been jumping over to instagram and tik tok. They've added templates there that make it easier to make video out of still images, which is nice since you sort of have to. Especially if you use capcut (which is free phone app) you can use capcut templates for tik toks. Tumblr has been more active as well, which was surprising.

There is an alternative to high incompetence.

There is a corporate term called "black knight takeover"....
which in simple words is basically buying a company to burn it to the ground......
This is often done to get rid of competition, but in this case it might be for pettier reasons, or genuinely believing that twitter is a toxic dump that needs to be destroyed

While i despised twitter and still despise how it is right now, if i were an excentric billionaire i wouldn't buy it to destroy it.

Some practices like charging money to "verify" an account doesn't seem practical for it's claimed purpose.....

I read an article that Twitter might become a huge risk for hacking made worse by people who now add information to pay for Twitter. People may be at risk of there info being stolen.

As unlikely as this seems (he spent several billion dollars on it and tried to back out 3 times, and he doesn’t own any competitor as far as I know) I think one of the worst consequences is that we’re losing an important source of peer to peer info sharing. a lot of important news/discourse that’s not covered by mainstream media was shared on there, and Twitter shutting down would only benefit dominant media sites and their biases.
That said, this might still have been the case (or worse) with what he was planning, even if he didn’t f it up lol

I feel like this fact is so important. Firing the Accessibility Team did tick off people of disabilities on the platform. I know the buying out is still early but he at the very least should've either spoke out about how to replace them or left the Team alone in general. He never should fired that team since so much work was done to make the site accessible. As someone who may not like Twitter, communities were build on the platform and people made businesses on it.

Yeah honestly that's more concerns me. The current employee trearment. Like crunch culture is already a big problem in tech. Obilgate long hours for pay that is not worth it

And honestly cutting it down to be so small sounds like hell for an employee. And to run and moderate an already bloated massive website spells just security risks.

I feel sorry for those who for one reason or another can't leave.

Especially international employees with work Visas.

I doubt twitter will close as quickly maybe a 5 years slow death but it would be a miserable one for the currabt wirk force

Hasn't musk been accused several times of screaming at his employees?
Also, there was that time he called a cave diver a paedophile because the diver didn't want to use his tech for a rescue mission.
Musk isn't some kind of demigod. He's got some brains, but he mostly just got lucky, and idk why musk fans can't see that.

Pretty much this. If anything the world would benefit Twitter ending along with the rest of "social" media.
Edit. Going by all the hyper responses it looks like Twitter has come here.

He honestly feels like Kim Kardashian but for tech bros but maybe much worse. I hate this idea that you have to worship people just because they are rich. I think people like luxury-porn which I always found really creepy. Even him having a super young pop-star wife feels like wish fulfillment for some people. Tho the way he talks about Grimes being not real was so creepy and is huge red flags for abuse.

In all his hubris(and dumbness) he must've signed something or did something for the former heads of Twitter to threaten to sue if he didnt follow through...honestly, he should've just shut the fuck up and kept doing what he normally does- which is NOTHING. Jack [Dorsey] had this dumbass paying more than it was worth(I thought he was a savvy businessman?) and now he feels like he has to re-coup that money, on a platform that was FREE for everyone.

It's a miracle that Twitter survived a decade; but it's assured a death now that he's at the helm..

Dude just admit you have a crush on him and move on

sigh

cracks knuckles

Everyone needs to calm down and realize just because you don't like him (Elon) doesn't make him dumb, stupid, ignorant, and anything else. He is a businessman.

No, he's dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to running a business. He's not a good business man and never has been. He did not found Paypal and he did not found Tesla. Who signs a contract for 44 billion that says you MUST purchase the company and then cries about it when he has buyer's remorse like a week later? A good businessman would have read the contract in full before signing off on it, especially for something that's costing him nearly a quarter of his wealth. Advertisers are pulling out, users are leaving in droves for Mastodon and Tumblr, employees get fried ON Twitter for simply criticizing him, he fired critical IT and engineering employees, and Twitter Blue was a disaster. You can't even deny that last one. You clearly think you're a capitalist, so I'll ask you how you think something like that was a good thing when it caused Eli Lily to literally lose billions due to an account impersonating them?

Are you running multiple fortune 500 companies?

No, and neither is he. Send Elon to Mars for a year prior to him purging 75% of staff and Twitter would still continue to function. The workers run the company, he just consumes the profit and pretends he did something whenever he says he "has an idea"

He also has very smart people working for him. He doesn't design rockets, but his staff which is smart, does

Correct, I'm glad we agree he doesn't run these companies.

You can't be dumb and be a billionaire, it's impossible

Sure you can! Get lucky and inherit your wealth from your parents! You'll never have to worry about investments failing when you're a trust-fund baby or your parents own an emerald empire And speaking of lucky winnings-

understand 95% of people that win the lottery are flat broke in 9 years, no matter how much they won.

I'm not sure this is the win you think it is, but most people don't win billions from the lottery. If you gave someone a billion from lottery winnings after taxes, I can guarantee you they will not be flat broke in their lifetime and will have enough money leftover for their children to not have to work at all in their lifetimes. Based on the earlier portion of your post, I assume you understand how much money this is and thus why this is the case.

Twitter will not go away. This is just a bunch of people annoyed that twitter is changing.

Look, I'm a 10+ year software engineer with a specialization in cybersec. My masters is in computer engineering. I work on a VERY large system, and I know enterprise web software engineering in and out. The biggest hinderance to any company that writes this type of software is losing people with extensive production knowledge. These are your 5+ year employees who know the system in and out and know how to maintain it when issues come up - and they come up DAILY. You as a user don't know about them, because these guys are so experienced at maintaining Twitter that they fix the issues silently without the majority of the userbase ever experiencing a blip. You can bring in literally the world's top engineers to stand in for these people, and they still wouldn't be able to replace them. Twitter is now rumored to have around 800 employees, down from approx 8000. Do you REALLY think they're going to be able to hold this ship together? From the cybersec side, this is going to be a dumpster fire. I guarantee you black hats have been happily chugging away since Elon took over, more so than they were before, and its only a matter of time they actually breach without a good cybersec team in place to impede them. People are already reporting 2FA is broken. (seriously, change your twitter password ASAP if you're sharing it on other sites. You shouldn't be doing that anyway, but I know most people reading this are.) Twitter as a company will continue to exist (who am I kidding, he's gonna rename it and say he founded it ), but I am VERY skeptical the system as we know it will continue to function for long, or it will become so unusable that people will just leave the platform all together.

You goal is to be a successful artist, not be a political mouthpiece against someone who doesn't even know you exist.

Stop bootlicking him then. He doesn't know you exist.

Yet he has Tesla & SpaceX... he's been doing something.

ya, being born rich, failing upwards, and lying through his teeth

Paying to have your name slapped on someone else's work technically counts as "doing", that is true.

This kinda implies that Tesla and Space X actually are good for the world, which they are not.

He didn't invent Tesla. He was just the majority shareholder who bought out the company, kicked out the actual chief executive-- Martin Eberhard-- and paid some millions on the NDA. Tesla was doing fine without him. Now the company is embroiled in a bunch of work violations for treating it worker like shit under policies directly tied to his leadership. Tesla has not made a profit except for the years where it sells carbon credit; it produces overpriced electric cars that only dominates the market because of the number of fueling stations available; its stock is failing and is considered massively overvalued by most market analysis.

The only thing that he's been successful in is getting the electric cars into mainstream market under the guise of environmental sustainability, but Tesla sells carbon credit and the way it produces cars is actually terrible for the environment. If he really wants to support the environment, he would've invested in public transportation, encouraged better policies making (he has done the opposite), shut up about bitcoin, and supported indigenous communities.

Space X has done nothing that Nasa couldnt, except now it's privatized. They've taken billions in government contract while not doing shit for scientific research.

Whatever minuscule, if any, good him and his companies have done are incidentals to profit making.

The guy's just a rich kid who throws money at idiotic ideas and hope that they stick; 99% of them have not. You're talking about a guy who wants to build underground tunnels network for cars when train exists, thinks that COVID will completely end by 2022 when it has killed more people this year than in 2021 and 2020 in some countries, and says that he'll get people to colonize mars by 2023. You're talking about a guy who was fired as Xcom and Papal ceo for being bad at his job, a guy who says he's “a free speech absolutist” while firing employees for speaking out and supporting rhetorics that violently silence marginalized people. He's been sued multiple times for his illegal business practices. He literally could solve world hunger with his money but instead he bought twitter-- nothing can excuse how morally bankrupt that is.

i should've said "stopped" instead of "solved." Elon said if the UN can give him a $6 billion plan for doing so, he would give them the money (mind you his wealth is valued at $250 billions). They did. He didn't.

And what @AmeTsunami said