every now and then we "poke the bear" and say something (truthful) just to get a few folks riled up and then we sit back and buy popcorn futures
Thanks! I am optimistic but the people in the groups... I can't even. They are worried so much about multiple seasons that, it seems, they aren't focusing on trying to make their first series successful. I think it's smart to have a back up plan but if I've learned anything from Tapas is that it takes time to build an audience. With the way a few people have barked at me, it feels like if they aren't insta-sucessess after the first six weeks, they're done.
some of it has been. I'll message @cherrystark and say... just poked the bear. and it will be a subject that people discuss here and exchange ideas and talk about writing but... it seems like most of the people on the FB pages are like... business people. I look at their answers and I think... are you writers or Carnival barkers.
sometimes you get the feeling they'd willingly cut each other's noses off to be able to be first in line. it's kinda sad sometimes.
This is very true. Mostly when we do it it's to raise a point that they're bypassing and refuse to listen to no matter how many times we'll try to present it. The only way to get them to notice is to give them a poke. But then you have the people that reiterate old information insisting that these are the rules that have to be adhered to when most people know they're outdated.
On the fb page that @cherrystark and I run we do not talk about vella unless we have information in black and white from the amazon people. Otherwise we talk about doing serials, what it entails, we pass on articles etc. and we talk about pantsing. If someone asks a question about vella we refer them to other pages or amazon itself.
We're told our page is "drama" free because of this. We're very lucky.
actually... at this very moment we are both exchanging gifs of people beating theirs heads because of one woman's remarks.
now I'm curious to what you said to get that ban xD
Also i'm not sure if that kind of savage competition is for me.
Not like I could join in anyway as I'm not from the US.
A lot of romance novels. Like 90% of the people who ask to join our group are writing romance with a lot of fantasy/paranormal stuff. When it does open internationally, as long as you know how to write and post to a schedule (which you do) and can write a series longer than 80k words (again which I'm sure you can), you'll be just fine.
We're not sure. I'm pretty much a "plain speak" person. I can couch words to be all sweet and flowering but when I'm dealing with people who need to have the facts laid out for them, I get pretty straight forward and I don't hold back with the truth.
They're all adults there, they don't run the ages differences like they do here. I think it was the posting that this isn't a walk in the park, it does take a lot of work and that right now there were very few people who weren't actual serializers offering a lot of advice and they needed to pay attention to the people who where actually in the trenches and were willing to help as much as possible... and not the people who were doing nothing but speculating.
Unfortunately, I didn't realize I was dealing with a coven of Stepford suburbanite boss ladies and I got muzzled. After being let out of jail I found I couldn't remark on anything, let alone post anything without it being approved. I'm too freaking old to seek anyone's approval and unless you're my dad or one of my uncles... I'm not toeing any line.
and there you have it, plainly spoken without any grey lines
We're still not sure what set them off but
They've made a self-imposed word limit rule? WHY?!? And they're shaming people who don't adhere to it, even though the actual word limit is 5000?
Who pooped in the Weetbix of these women?
I seriously love it when you guys come share the crazy nonsense going on in Facebook-Vella-land. 
I'm on retreat on 5 acres with deer, I think the deer just scattered I'm howling with laughhter.... dang, girl, that was funny
Their thinking is that their best shot for readership is to stay around 1.5K words, for every chapter and if you go longer they'll get bored and too short, the readers will feel cheated. 
While there is a grain of salt to this idea, I love variety in my chapter lengths as a reader.
My favorite bits of "logic" circling these groups is to "load up" your first free chapters (which are free) to draw readers in and cut the word count in half for the rest of the series. (Think 3.5K to 1.5K words)
The other bit is that it's better to widdle down your word count to fit their guidelines and loose money instead of dividing the section into smaller chapters. These "edits" come after your regular editing. One newer writer had a 6k word chapter (yikes) and instead of just splitting it into smaller increments like a lot of writers here do, one lady (same lady who blocked @therosesword and I) encouraged the writer to scrap a good 75% of it to get it down to the "sweet spot".
I consider it badge of honor and I wear it proudly
another aspect of the people cutting things down was (according to the lady who did what she did) was, she would read through and cut two words here, and one word there and maybe three words in another spot.
I thought I'd scratch my head raw reading her "advice."
So.. this has caught my curiosity... a lot. I'm thinking of trying it just to see what happens...lol
and lets not forget the conversation about adding 20 words to hit the next one hundred words... oh, that... now THAT was a conversation. or did we cover that on another thread... we may have
even if you're not a pantser you have to join our fb page, although, our folks are pretty good, it's some of the other pages that leave you wondering when you got the lobotomy
AND!!! I might have already shared this story but the same, sweet, sweet crazy lady took it upon herself to edit another graphic designer's cover image to better fit the "genre" she assumed the artist was going for. Nowhere did the original artist ask for feedback or critiques on the image. They just asked us to guess which genre fit for their picture. Needless to say @therosesword and I were very quick to defind the artist. (Their work was better than her edits.)