The Bitching thread 2.0

[TheThoughtfulBoxful]

Can we please stop encouraging/endorsing drama in this community, even in a backhanded manner?

[Heliox14]

Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but drama always finds a way into things.
Let's see how long this lasts...I enjoyed the first b*tching thread, while it lasted.

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I've always hated it when people in a group breaking up to form their very own mini-conversations.
Like, suddenly out of the blue, everyone has their own little convos with somebody, instead of, you know, everyone sharing stuff with one another.
I don't know if it's because of the "mates" I'm with, or it's because of me, but really, it gets friggin tiring when everything just divides like that.
I mean, what's the point of going with us if you're going to talk with someone else?
Just my thing.
-Helioxiv

[Alamino]

But snow is so amazing! It's so pretty and cold and great!

Anyways, my complaint. I just picked up a game I haven't played since February and can't remember where I was or how to play and it wont let me restart.

[DiegoPalacios]

Talk to many publishers, that will give you more options and a bigger ground to negotiate. If you aren`t satisfied with publisher 1, seek for a publisher who gives you a better deal.

[dawgofdawgness]

Wohohoho thanks. It got pretty ugly back there. I hope everything was resolved in the end.
And bless that one guy that just wanted to talk about gyms lol

[Chopythes]

Talk to many publishers, that will give you more options and a bigger ground to negotiate. If you aren`t satisfied with publisher 1, seek for a publisher who gives you a better deal.

I've already done that!
They were the only publisher that replied back with actual wanting to publish.
If they say no now, I won't be sad, because I don't really want to work with a published that's known to be rude!

I replied back to that email so now I'm afraid of opening it xD

[Shanny8]

So far the final half of this year has been kicking my butt art wise. I feel lethargic, and kinda burned out, but I need to get this chapter of my comic done. I've hit a zone with my RL gig where I dont want to stay late anymore- even if it allows me extra hrs/extra $$$. I think I need to just curl up in my bed and sleep for a few months to recharge my batteries...

[DiegoPalacios]

Unfortunately, publishers everywhere will expect results and pressure for deadlines, is part of their job, because they can`t publish something unfinished and there is a chain of promises that rely on people delivering, so they may be pressured by their superiors. The difference may be how clear they are about what they expect from you and individual personalities . If you want another publisher in the long term, finish your book or finish another project. You can talk to the same publishers before. Or search for other ones.
The investor/publisher mindset is simple, i know some things may be frustrating, but understanding how they work may help you.
1-Deadlines are sacred. One day later means millions lost. There is a massive plan that involves the launching date of your book, advertising, etc...
2-Evidence is gold. If you can prove your progress, they can calm down because they can prove their superiors this artist is working.
3-Never over-promise. If you can only work once a week, be clear about it. If nobody accepts that. Then is not the time YET. Even without a publisher, do your book in your own time. I know the rude publisher kind of said that too, but when you get more time, you can actually work with a publisher and have part of your already done.

I know publishing involves a lot of pressure, that is why you have to prepare yourself. Good luck with your book and hope you become a hit!

[YangKoete]

True, just...I speak with my subscribers a lot, and all I'm usually told is to add colour/get better with line art.

I'm trying, it's just annoying.

[Chopythes]

Oh, I'm fully aware of how the industry works!

However, I thought it was unreasonable to have 140 pages done in less than 2 months and extremely low pay, (talking $300) which I told him when I met him in person and in our mail conversations.
I work full time, so I only have so much time to spare D:

As I haven't signed a contract yet, I have the fullest right to ask for a longer deadline.
(If I had signed the contract, I wouldn't have asked for a delayed deadline but it should always be discussed if you feel it's unreasonable!)
I do still, believe that he could've contacted me with a single yes or no answer to it instead of waiting 2 years asking me how it goes.

And this publisher IS the superior, they're a rather small publishing company but has been around for decades so they're fairly known too!

I contacted about 6-7 different publishers, some replied, some didn't.
But that's how it is in the industry!
It's not the first time, and certainly not the last time I've been in contact with publishers

[Luminosophy]

I guess I would just say, take your time. This is an opportunity, but it's not the only opportunity that will come around if you keep plugging away at your comic. Don't feel pressured to take it, especially if you get bad vibes from this guy. : 0

[ISNEKO]

I think I might have been interviewed without me realizing it by a cute girl at the gym last night. She got away with my religious beliefs, what time i come to the gym, my ethnicity details, what i do for a living, my age, and all i got was her name.

I'm not good at this.

[NickRowler]

Yeah, it is important to not overshare too much. I remember once told a stranger at a library I was single. They then asked me out and when I said "No, thanks" they started stalking me around the library.

[joe_galindez]

My beef is that the conversation about hands got cut short. I'm a trained palmist (sorry, "cheiromancer") but I rarely get to talk about it.

[KoreanTacos]

I can understand, the only issue with asking subs is they generally want to be nice and aren't willing to say the things you have to hear. Also they may not have no idea of what to critique on. Seeking outside help can be more resourceful as they have 0 connection to you, and usually (hopefully) can give you better insight on what you do need to improve on. It's not fun, but it is necessary if you hope to grow. After all nobody makes the perfect omelette without cracking a few eggs, shredding cheese, slicing mushrooms, sauteing the spinach, measuring out the milk, putting the right temperature, carefully folding the eggs, and picking out the right herbs on their first try. Hope things turn out better and you get three new subs

[joe_galindez]

What I need is a critic who hates my guts, but not enough to leave me ignorant.

[IdiotWithPencil]

And bless that one guy that just wanted to talk about gyms lol

thanks ='D I just wanted to people to be fit and have fun )'':

[ISNEKO]

Once I invent more time and read your book more I'll give you words.

[dawgofdawgness]

Inhale I have this one friend that I think might be toxic.
It's sometimes frustrating to talk to her because sometimes she'll try to make me look dumb. I don't really know how to explain it, but I'm super ditsy in public and sometimes I say stupid things. But a lot of the time she puts words into my mouth and makes me look like a dumbass when she clearly knows what I meant.
It's just frustrating to talk to her sometimes because every time I call her out for something, she accuses me of victimizing myself and yells at me. And the argument just goes on and on because she never admits her mistakes. It's a bad habit of hers and a pet peeve of mine.
I've tried to distance myself from her but at the same time she's the closest friend I have and also she's generally a pretty sweet person.
But I figured that most of my insecurities relating to my social life are usually connected to her in some way.
Being around her causes me to overthink a lot - when I'm talking to her sometimes she pulls out her phone and texts some other person - like I know a lot of people do that but my mind just tells me that I'm not interesting and she just has better friends to be with. I'm a pretty boring person.

Bleh! It just sucks. It sucks.

[Mari]

I haven't been doing anything for my VN for like weeks and it was supposed to be released for halloween...sigh. Switching anti-deprassants during production period is not something I recommend...