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Nov 2017

Yes that looks great, aside from some difference in direction/focus of the pupils! but the shape of the eye itself is good.
I feel your pain, I struggle with asian eyes too.

Oh shoot-- someone noticed XD
I'd correct them, but I'm too content right now :stuck_out_tongue: maybe later.

HAHA SORRY, most people don't care, I'm just... way too obsessive with pupil direction. Honestly it is something I have had to force myself to practice to care less about, it's that bad with me.

So I'm trying to color an old Christmas story of mine in a different way and make it more dreamlike looking than the normal style I was going with. I'll show two examples


It's not too big of a difference but on the normal ones I keep my lines black and don't use any textures. While on the dreamlike ones I add textures and color the lines with a reddish color. I'm not sure if the effect is a little too much and the normal style is already dreamlike enough? I was never good at using textures soooo <__<

I think they look pretty great, especially the dream variant! :slight_smile:
There's a fairly significant difference between the two styles. I like how the illustrations look with the colored lineart, all sweet and bubblegummy :blush:

Thank you! ; _ ; I’m trying to find a balance between the two since I’ve been critiqued before for my work being way to saturated! So this is reassuring c;

Honestly I think I would advise against rotating the eyes. Besides it not being at all what makes people look asian (any photograph of an asian person will in fact have rounded eyes that sit normally), it's also been used as a rather lazy/ offensive stereotype in the past.

These are some things I've noted tht add up to a common look when I studied photos of people from various Asiatic backrounds. Epicanthic fold is the most common for eyes, but some Asian people don't have, just as some Caucasian and African people do in fact have it.

Facial structure is usually very rounded and rather flat, so I wouldn't have the cheeks protrude nearly as much. A trick I use is to have most of the line weight concentrated at the "back" of the eye, where the fold reveals the eye more fully. Around the front the skin appears tight, so the line weight is left much thinner. Eyebrows are interesting, they're commonly very short in length and start thin, and thicken out at the end, for both men and women. I usually avoid drawing much of the bridge of the nose from front on as well, because it projects less and slopes quite a bit in side profile (that's just my personal style though, eliminate detail that isn't very prominent.)

Honestly what you had wasn't too far off from looking Asian. If anything I think the other kids could have more experiments with different eye shapes.

Well here's a quick example that ties into what LordVincent mentioned about the illusion of texture rather than detailing it all out. First and foremost I'm a cel-shader in colour and a black and white inker in comics. All my detail is done through drawing, so when it comes to colour I pretty much just BS the details. I hate spending hours on end painting things. ¯(ツ)


For the wall I just quickly used a slight shadow colour to create the effect of some aging in the wall plaster. I only needed a few spots in the whole picture for people's mind to fill in the rest. For the plants, just blotching down colour and tone inflections. The brain can take that information and reasonably put together the shape and form of the plants on it's own. Granted this is probably too lazy for what some people would want with their style but my point stands, there's no need to spend hours on it. Only personal desire. Sometimes over-rendering can even make things look worse. Grass, hair and fur are especially things you want to allude to, not render out every single strand. There's ways to do this without texture brushes but that's also stylistic choice.

As far as figures vs environments, which one do you draw first? And have you considered perspective grids? There's plenty you can find on google.

dang i had no idea. I feel dumb!

I dunno much about the racism asians face. The racism that exists in sweden is often directed towards muslims so I know more about the bullshit they have to deal with and the stereotypes they are accused of.


How do you.. Do foreshortening? I tried to do figure practice and I can't seem to get the ones with foreshortening right. Like I just drew a boxy blob for the gun here. (yes it's a gun)
Also any tips on how to improve the overall drawing? I'm trying to save my characters from looking too stiff

Ok. I may not a be pro or even close but I have been reading manga since a lonnnng time ago, so I hope that helps. BTW I read Bloodroot it's pretty cool and I love Netsozou Trap.

Anyway, let's go the point. I think one of the main differences in the shoujo drawings is the round eyes **, **the eyeliner (or eyelashes? lol) and the frilly wavy doll .like hair :smiley: and a rounder face. Also a smaller nose and mouth.

Something like this I suppose? (I am guilty of shamelessly redraw it just to make me unsderstand )

Anyway I do like your drawings :), and I suppose the more "femenine" character of Bloodroot is Tina not only because of her assets *cough * you can see her lips, round eyes, lot of eyelashes lol, and and smaller nose (I think).

pinned Nov 5, '17

Well, I don't know a thing about animation. But to cut on time and cells you can always do a smear of your character's legs as they jump over the log? This might also help smooth out the animation cuz it does look a little janky on the part where their legs start rearing up to jump.

Visuals look great, btw! Very nice to look at!

I have zero experience with animation myself, but it does look way better with the slight pause. Although overall it seems a bit jerky. Not sure if it's just because you did a quick example fix.

That background is insane, I love it. :heart: What brushes were used for the foilage?