Community-wise, it's the opposite The fact that most of Tapastic's community are creators makes them more understanding of the art, the lenght of your updates, potential hiatuses... And most can see the potential when they see how much your art improved between your last and first episodes.
On webtoon, about half of the comments I get are "TOO SHORT !" or "PLEASE UPDATE MORE OFTEN" sometimes without even a passing remark about the content of the episode (mind you, I never take them the wrong way, it means they want more of it, which is good !)
My theory is that as they're used to the featured comics which are from paid artists who have to upload a 20 000px ep once a week, they have a consumer approach to all of the comics they read and often don't understand why the author from the discover section can't produce as much.
What I like about webtoons is that I don't have to search too much in order to find a comic that I like, the web is really friendly, at least for me, I like the list at the end more popular by genre or by age group, also in the serialized series they pay the authors so I know they will keep the schedule and the quality is ok .
Most of the comics I follow here I discover them thanks to the forums.. because even when I search it by genre they don't suit my taste so much. So webtoons make my job easier...
Going back to the main topic I believe the web design and editing job (serialized webtoons or staff picks) also counts, and like other people say here, the fact that here are more creators
Hi!
I started on tapastic about a month ago and then I started to also post on webtoons. I've also noticed the views on webtoons rack up quicker than that of tapastic. I'm not sure but I did post everything that I had on tapastic already there in a day and my views surpassed that of tapastic in a day.
Nonetheless, both are now equal in numbers and subscribers since I've updated today, so I'm not fully sure what people mean when they get more views on webtoons than that of tapastic. I find them both difficult to gain viewership but that hasn't stopped me from being consistent. Maybe my comic just sucks for the majority of viewers but I love making it. lol. XD
Yeah I understand what you mean! I just say on a creator's point of view, dealing with readers who /would/ have lower expectation for your creation is a lot easier compare to when you show your series to the experts like the other creators that fills this place. I keep feeling inferior to everyone here LMFAO
Lol by the sounds of it, Webtoon is the way to go according to the majority. But then again, Tapastic is still nice in it's own special way.
I just feel awkward now for relying on Tapastic too much as I post my comic for a hobby. Like, assuming 1 year on here is a milestone, I asked subscribers the other day to vote for either a Q&A or a Contest. Not many replied and so with this silence, I am stuck unable to post another page because it just looks bad that I included an "ignored" poll.
I sit wondering whether or not I should have made my comic on Webtoon and perhaps the poll results would have been better. x__x
Tapastic is great ! I feel there's much more of a community there than on webtoon especially since on webtoon there are no profiles or even avatars.
Here I feel much more inclined to share news, throws contests and Q&A and whatnot ! Webtoon doesn't even have a forum
Also they do everything they can so that everyone can earn a bit of money, with adrev and the tipping program so that's pretty awesome too !
Well, you have to gauge your audience well before throwing that kind of event, that's for sure ! But you should keep posting episodes as usual and choose the Q&A or the contest by yourself (I'd advise the Q&A). Or if you regret making that poll, just say that you'd rather make an illustration instead or something !
Why not do both ? You have to be exclusive on webtoon only if you get featured ! Meanwhile you should definitely broaden your audience as much as you can and you'll see for yourself how well your story will do on Webtoon !
Thanks for the kind words, @Marvin!
I don't think there's rhyme or reason necessarily to some of the subscriber/like trends here or anywhere else, it just is what it is, for better or worse.
Webtoon is a bit more restrictive than Tapastic, which has shown itself to be a bit restrictive lately. So there's also that to think about. Just different platforms, even if the level of creator censorship isn't necessarily considered.
I'm not particularly motivated to try posting on Webtoon, especially since it seems to be far more censor-happy than Tapastic. I refuse to censor my work, because frankly it's restrained enough! Hearing that the audience at Webtoon is more demanding, as readers and not creators at all, is discouraging. But it's also worthwhile to mention that only a handful of people at Tapastic are actual creators. It's the creators, generally, who are active on the forums, but that's a tiny minority of all the site's userbase. Most of Tapastic's users are readers and not creators.
You can pretty much look at any "big" series here. You'll see thousands of subscribers. Logically, these are not all the same subscribers to every other series with thousands of subscribers; there may be some shared, but the vast majority will be different. Considering how many registered users exist for Tapastic, it would be extremely unlikely that all, or even the majority, would be creators.
There is comparatively a handful of messages here at the forums in the course of any day, and they tend to be in large part the same groups of people. The forums are where primarily creators go to discuss, so it may seem that there are more creators than readers -- that is an illusion. The forums are more typically used by creators, so that's why there sometimes appear to be more of them, mainly because they're vocal and noticeable here.
It's also worth looking at, say, the likes on pages. Certainly, some of the likes might be from creator friends, collaborators, or such, but most of them are from people who are reading the page and enjoying it.
Last but not least, you can read through the subscriber list. Most of them will not be creator profiles.
Honestly, it makes me wonder how casual people think creating a comic is. It's really quite a lot of work, and most people in the world can't stick with it. In fact, most people don't even try. It's not just something for anyone and everyone, as much as I encourage people to find their creative expression. It's a lot more involved than, say, writing a fanfic. But even in the textual medium: just because someone wrote a fanfic once doesn't mean they have the dedication to write a novel, or even a formal short story. Most certainly will not have the dedication to do serial installments of an ongoing tale.
The long and short of it is this: there are, beyond any doubt, more users who are just readers than users who are creators. There simply are not that many willing or able creators in the world, much less in webcomics, much less on this site.
The difference between Tapastic and Webtoons has been huge for me. I first started posting to Tapastic in May of last year, and was happy with the moderate growth I had. I reached 1k subscribers after 6 months or so and was incredibly happy about that.
But then I started posting to Webtoons at the end of January and the difference was astounding! Subscriber counts in the thousands after just 2 months, view counts dwarfing my views here by miles, and many more comments per page. Yes, the readers there expect more, but I've created a basic response to complaints of shortness and that seems to have kept those complainers at bay.
I've also noticed my subscriber counts on Tapastic has become much lower this month than previous months. I don't know if this is due to where my story is at currently, or if it's a sign of a larger trend. From what people talk about in this thread with the exposure of readers to new comics here, it sounds Tapastic's site design certainly doesn't help. Webtoons' site and app seem to show which comics have updated in each genre, regardless of how popular they are. This makes it much easier to start out and generate a following there, as long as you update decently frequently (I do once a week now). I think this is something Tapastic needs to address going forward -- it reminds me of the same issue Deviant Art had so many years back.
The Discover challenge thing that Webtoons is doing makes it a lot more lucrative to try doing well there too. I don't know how the rest of you are doing with the Tapas model, but I'm pretty sure I'll never see a dime from ad revenue here on Tapastic.
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