Thoughts on the new Webtoon Contest?

[beta1042]

I actually still strongly believe there will be at least one "underdog" type comic that places. As in a comic that didn't gain much traction by their "popularity" standards, or may not have even gotten promoted by them, but I guess we'll have to wait and see!

[plebisss]

Just out of curiosity, is there anything that's pushing you to make that prediction?

[beta1042]

the last contest the most popular entry was Unordinary but she didn't even win. Instead some no name comic that I still don't even know the name of won.

Also a part of me feels they'll do it just to avoid the accusations of "You promoted all these people to victory", "this contest was decided from the start" "you didn't even read all the entries" If they have atleats one little guy they can be like- "See we looked at all entries"

[Nachi]

My guess is also that all the winners, maybe not even the most of them will be the obvious choices, most popular ones. The popularity only makes 40% and I read in their rules that they would take in account how long the comic has been there. Several of the most popular ones are comics that have been only reposted or are from already popular authors, so I think the judges will take that into account. Also it was never written that the popularity scale is how they are going to judge the audience engagement. They are going to look at comments and likes for example as they wrote it. Which may mean whatever. Ultimately I think they will pick titles they themselves find the best or most fitting the category and other set criteria and the smaller part will be about how the audience reacted to them. My guess. It can then be even a less popular comic, that wins. So I agree with beta 1042

[beta1042]

I mean they get at least 8 winners, which means although the majority should definitely be comics they see as safe money makers, it gives them the leniency to one or 2 "gambles". y'know high risks can yield high rewards.

I just don't think people should give up hope until it's over.

[plebisss]

@beta1042 I see, so a kind alleviation-of-accusations pick? In a sense a pick like that is both patronizing and samaritan, I guess.

It's interesting to try and pick apart their criteria; they've made it vague enough that they have enough wiggle room, but not too vague where all you're grasping is straws.

But wow, 6887 comics (last I checked) ... good luck to the judges. They can't possibly look through each and every one though, right? Even if we're generous and say only half actually made the requirements...wow.

[beta1042]

I imagine they have a computer program than can weed out obvious comics that don't qualify tho. Like atleast something basic like -removed all comics that don't have the min number of updates. A lot of those comics really don't qualify so I'm sure that helps XD But yeah it's a lot.

[AllisonGal]

These are my thoughts and guesses too, given the heavy promotion all these have had at some point, and mostly Purple Hyacinth was the one who received 3 months nonstop promotion whether in plain sight or hiding in the personal recommendation of readers for who knows how many months now, sure its popularity is probably the highest at the maximun for the 40% readers engagement. then what about the comics that has around 15-20k? Their popularity must be around 5% seeing they have set the bar so high with purple hyacinth'having 40% max and being so high at about 180k subs. These is just an estimation. Bottom line: no one can compete with Purple Hyacinth. it's the obvious winner and it has been so since June. There was never a competition.

[Kittosaurus]

I really wish audience participation wasn't part of the score! I understand why it was included, but it is really tough for the underdogs who have a limited following to get any traction, and it gives already successful artists an unfair advantage.

I tried to not let the numbers get me down since they were out of my control and just focus on creating quality episodes and tried to engage with my audience the best that I could!

[Zushi]

I agree. Purple hyacinth will definitely be in the top 8 no doubt. With how heavily they promoted the series (5 or 6 times? I lost count but it was a lot. The most I've ever seen), and the amount of subscribers it garnered as well as likes, views and comments, it definitely set the bar high for popularity. I don't think webtoons will risk not having Purple Hyacinth win after investing in it through promotion and with that many subscribers. Plus, Sophism has a huge following on Instagram now (10k+ followers) and made an ost for the comic. So I think that is pretty much set in stone.
As for the other categories, I believe Lalin's curse has a high chance in "most gripping" due to the promotion once again (I think it got promoted 3-4 times). Fantasy might be a toss up as I didn't really notice a consistent promotion of any series and same with comedy. But in the end I think they'll choose 1 "obvious" winner for each category and then one "not obvious" winner in conjunction so it will seem Webtoons is judging fairly somewhat. But that's just my theory

[AllisonGal]

I agree with you Zushi, they might throw in 1 or 2 more average comics to hide their dirty cheating ways and make it look like they were fair.

[darthkrievos]

Even without all the promotion Lalin's curse deserve to get in the top 8. If Lalin's curse doesn't get into the top 8 I'll be really pissed.

[antimekii]

If I remember correctly, The Badguys won the superhero contest.

Superhero contest result was:
1 The Badguys
2 Supersonic Girl
Unordinary and idk what the other one is

3 of those aren't Manhwa/Manga style and was quite an underdog back then? So Don't give up

Edit wait. I confused the 2nd sci-fi contest winner with the superhero one lol Also the past contests always had underdogs in the prizes.

[Haku]

Lol! Interesting, to see my comic on your friend's predictions, ofc sorted by "popularity". But I wanted to say that Webtoons didn't even promote my comic on recommended until like a few days before the deadline, and this when they were rotating a bunch of other contest entries too. I know it only got a lot of subs because I advertised it on my other main webtoon. There are a ton of really really great entries in the Epic category that I definitely think needed more attention. Even now, I'm still unsure who will win in this category because I can't place what WT is looking for/what their story criteria is.

[potootie]

I've personally read your series. Kudos to you, you pull off the action sequences really well. I do disagree with your claim, though, that being promoted later has a different effect from being promoted earlier. Last week was still well within the contest duration, and being featured on Recommended Titles still has the same pronounced effect on views/subscriptions and such. Also, the fact that you were promoted at all proves that you're part of Webtoon's consideration pool, so I wouldn't argue that things are as unsure as you say.

[Haku]

Ahh I wasn't claiming that me being promoted later was a different effect, I just wanted to point out that it's a case by case scenario. Any promotion in general is better than none, but I don't want people to feel like my subs were gained because of "Early official promotion" like some people are saying about other titles. It was mostly because I advertised it a bunch of times from my other webtoon, which already has a large following. And ofc it helped bring it up under the radar, no doubt about that. If they noticed that then I'm sure they will put that consideration in judging about the engagement. I just wish the best of luck to other titles because they really need to be seen too, I'm definitely rooting for some of the underdog ones

[Nachi]

Having a webtoon with already a large following is the greatest advertisement one can get, I suppose. Lucky you I haven't gotten to reading your comic, yet, but the art seems nice from the first glance, so I am definitely going to. Good luck with the contest, too

As for the promotion thing, I got promoted, too, to my great surprised as at that time I had like 43 subs and therefore were somewhere far away on the popularity scale. It just means, however, that the Webtoon team really goes through all the submissions, which is great. It must be a lot of work

[seru]

I really wish they didn't include audience engagement as a major part of the judging process.

:)) Then again, it's their contest.

Good luck to everyone!

[Haku]

Thanks so much! And congrats on the promotion There's really some great series I've noticed on the recommended reel, under 1k subs. The contest is really bringing out some of the best. I'm kinda all into that spirit, no matter if people think it's rigged or not I've had a lot of fun at least.

[darthkrievos]

I have to disagree with you on that, what's the point in Webtoons featuring a comic that nobody likes, just because a few people at Webtoons HQ thinks it's good, doesn't mean that the average reader will also like it.

It would be a waste of time and money to try to shove a bad series down our throats