Right now I feel "so done" like, "what am I even still doing here?"
On one hand, they leave confusing rules that require that users be 18+ (for the app) but on the other hand they put that rounded font that makes everything look both childish AND painful to the eyes for many of us with lesser or bigger sight-impairment and/or dyslexia. Not to mention that :3 and <3 indeed no longer look the same, yes (and it does matter).
I really do not understand this choice, considering adults still have this ongoing idea that "comics are for kids". And then we have ads for games that are mostly targeting youth? (though, there is that one ad for a business trading software, and those casino ads that are probably illegal here due to how strictly luck-based games are regulated).
It'd make more sense if those ads were more about art-related things, be they softwares, pet games or anything such that appeal to people who read comics or books.
As for the front page layout, I agree with everything that's been said above. It's cluttered, repetitive, gated, static, and seriously, "Tipping has arrived" is getting old. It's been several months now.
I really hate that books and comics are mixed together confusingly. Everything confuses me: some sections have a title, others don't. Everything looks random as heck, and why did they hide the Forums button?
I also agree with @kurapikasuki, the notifications icons are now very confusing, and way too dark against a pale background. The contrast is unpleasant to the eye and makes me want to just ignore it all.
I'm so upset that I've reached that stage where I'm not peeved but just numbed. It's getting to be hard to care, because, like @GoldenPlume I've put a lot of effort and energy in Tapastic, and the more it goes, the less I get back. It used to be a place I loved but my love is crumbling apart like the letters of the brand name.
We heard "something big" was coming but we were not told what as usual and were not asked our opinion in any way. Now I don't even know why I'm even giving mine right now. I feel like there is a growing disconnection between the @STAFF and the creator community. Even readers are now getting to be alienated by the amount of premium content pressed at their face.
My feeling is that by pressing monetized content so much, pressing popular comics and practically hiding away the indies, Tapas is just going to scare away new creators and new readers and end up suffocating itself in a downward spiral.
The only thing that could make it up to me is if @STAFF tells us that this update also will allow for features that were not possible on tapastic.com, such as changing the order of episodes of a series, or making series co-owned by several creators.
Hm, I'm still letting it settle. I know that the order of the front page isn't set and will be going through changes and Michael is already working on changing the font.
So I'm a bit more hopeful with this site update than the last several that were also dramatic garbage fires. The idea of the brands unifying has great possibilities and could be the first steps in bring favorable app features to the site.
Seems like there are common threads to everyone's criticisms here, so question to the community- If the front page gets a better rearrange (Popular/Trending/New back up to the top) and the font gets changed, how would you feel about the update then?
Oh yes, and tell @STAFF to get a move on with fixing the image uploading problem here in the forums. They've taken long enough as it is even though its a "low priority fix" which by itself shouldn't be that hard to fix.
A lot better, tbh. Just pushing the popular/trending/new back up top, and for the love of god, adding the link to the forum to the header bar, would do a lot.
There are a few smaller things - like the colours of different notifications, etc. - but re-arraging some elements on the front page would go a long way towards solving my biggest issues. I'm definitely not against the idea of changing things, but this current layout has some serious problems.
thanks @PotooGryphon for the info!
I could see this a year ago with the app update. Personally I dont like the app, the microtransactions, the choice of books etc etc
I would like that, definitely. My gripe was that only premium stuff is shown, free comics pushed away, and a simple rearrangement would fix that.
That being said, I get the feeling that this update kind of "confirmed suspicions" a lot of creators have had about tapas ditching free comics in favor of premium stuff, so there is some deeper hurt here that might warrant some attention in the form of... Dunno, some statement about where the company intends to steer tapastic, or some actions to boost the forum and creative community.
If the site only pushes the premium content it will entirely change what the Tapastic website is and they'll lose a lot of their current readers/writers/users and gain different ones in a smaller number. Way less people are willing to spend money or jump through the hoops required to get keys than would just like to read regular, indie content. From the way the front page is now, it's not even clear that there is free, indie content available on the website.
I also agree with @elixiadragmire that the choice of books they push doesn't appeal to me. I've always been under the impression that only premium books even exist on the website. If they allowed indie books as well I think that would be fun and would appeal to more people.
I asked Michael about this too recently. The response I got was that it's in the works. Notifications and push notifications are a bit tricky w/ iOS in particular and they're still seeing what is and isn't allowed. They're still trying to find that healthy balance between immediate feedback and collecting multiple notifications into one push notification.
I'd be really happy to see notifications make it to the app too. Perhaps that'll be another thing made easier with the brands merging.
Yes, staff could make these adjustments and it would help, but the most disconcerting part of this whole update matter is that staff actually believed that the new format in its current condition was good enough to push out live.
Why?
It's not like they promised creators something on 4/17/17 and had to rush a half finished job to meet their promises. They had all the time they wanted, all the time they needed to make sure independant creators didn't get buried, that the forums didn't get nearly eliminated, that premium series didn't dominate the site, to check with creators and get beta feedback, etc.
Supposedly (according to Twitter) staff showed the website last week to some creators. Who? The premium peeps? Seriously, what independant creator with less than 10K subs signed off on this?
It feels like so little consideration went into this update without considering how it would impact the 99%.
Agreed 100%. Is this update a "freudian slip" and it shows what staff really thinks of creators? It's hard not to be seriously wounded by this unexpected change.
Suddenly now everything we do for Tapas.io (Independents Obsolete?) feels like we're just hamsters turning the monetization wheel for another big corporation.
Are we all just "feeder comics" for the premium peeps?
lol if there were plans to shut down the forum we would know (the mod team would at least be notified, which we haven't sooooo).
The forums just aren't the main draw to this site. They need to make conservative decisions about their layout and the links to comics and books (especially the money making ones) are undoubtedly more important to have up there than a community forums link (and let's face it, the forum community is much, MUCH smaller than the main website community).
Totally agree, there was no rush and they could have fine tuned things better, however botched ill-thoughtout updates are sort of how Tapastic rolls. lol In fact I think each one has had its share of rocky road drama storms. I'm so used to them by now, and did used to get upset by it.
I don't think the staff is out to put creators down. Share holders may have a say in site design, but idk. More than likely with all the flood of feedback, they get the message and the site will definitely be changed. And as for the sneak peek of the design I think it was a site slip that happened, much like how sometime the banner feature accidentally gets changed and such.
I'm just thankful that with this update, scheduled episodes sitewide weren't released with no way of creators deleting them. lol Cuz that was a thing.
Y'know, since I started uploading Daniel here I've gotten a ton of awesome new readers, and this was the first webcomic forum I've been to that was full of nice, open-minded people that hasn't turned to a bunch of snippy a-holes (yet). XD
As the forum gets more people I expect it to change, but gosh it's getting harder and harder to defend Tapas as a website now that it's all about those behind a pay wall, and I used to kinda try. XD I realize they can't work like Webtoon since THEY have the equivalent of Google behind them, but maybe Tapas should consider looking at the free uploaded comics who become popular as they do instead of only going by the people who submit to them or they have personally found and decided to use as their special babies. XP That would be better than sweeping the popular freebies completely under the rug, hoping they're not as noticed as your main babes.
EDIT: Or heck, if making tons more popular comics into Premium ones isn't an option, then show off Patreon pages for popular comics on the main page or something. Just, y'know, try to show the love for the big freebies somehow! =P
Even if they don't fix up the layout, I'd still probably stay here since I already have a fanbase here and leaving wouldn't really benefit me much, but yeah, if it stays like this then newcomers are either going to turn away or be screwed from the beginning, no matter the quality of the comic. And when people are allowed to upload their own written works, will they get any consideration from Tapas if their story becomes popular? Heck, will it even be possible for a freebie written work to be noticed at all here?
Basically, yeah, gettin' way too hard to defend Tapas as it is. XD
Also, if this site is really about independent creators, then you should embrace your community aspect; your forums...don't you think? Put that link back in an obvious spot! XP
i hope you don't mind me chiming in instead of making a new thread of my own.
I actually couldn't be bothered with the new font, i can live with that. But i find the new front page to be:
1) Way too cluttered.
2) Top 10 will always be Top 10, so i personally feel it's very unfair to push Trending and Popular TOO FAR DOWN in favor of the Top 10s that never really change : ( give little guys a fighting chance, haha!
On a different note, i honestly could not find "forums" tab anymore? i typed it into my URL bar and hoped it was still saved in there (which it was, thankfully)
where did the forum tab went to? how can i easily access it again?