Vero: Thoughts?

[IdiotWithPencil]

sweet summer child nothing in this world is free, even less the marketing monster that is the internet

[craicin]

I made one! Just to see. I'm Craicin on it there aswell and like many new apps i dont know how to use it, cant wait.

[storytimebiondi]

Has anyone read its privacy and copyright policy? I browed through it yesterday thinking I'd make an account also, but I'm pretty sure they have full rights to use your work.

[sushy00]

I would not pay for it ever.
To be honest it quite annoys me that there is another social media thing that I have to keep up with.
For now I have not made one so far. My phone's memory is quite limited and I love using Instagram actually. Even though the algorithms are not that great.

[starknights]

I was concerned about it too. Someone on another artist group I'm on emailed them about it, and they stated that the creator retains all rights to their work. Vero ended up clarifying this in their Terms of Use and apologizing for not being more clear on it.

The terms of use in case anyone wants to read through it:
https://www.vero.co/terms-of-use/

[jpnakashima]

Many of the artists I follow moved to it, but I didn't install it yet. Didn't know it was going to be paid, shit.

I think that yes, like Chopythes said, the hype might die soon. I also didn't know about what @storytimebiondi mentioned... that's kind of worrisome.

All that said, what do you guys feel about the role of Instagram on this move? Because the reason I see many moving is because of changes in the algorithm. I've been personally a little annoyed by Instagram feeds for a while too, so I can imagine that it must suck for someone that interacts with it more than I do.
Do you guys feel Insta will change a little bit to adapt to this blowback?

[starknights]

Honestly, I don't think that Instagram will do anything unless they feel a serious blow, such as users completely leaving the service for Vero.

Vero got a lot of attention this weekend, but they also had a lot of complains because people weren't able to confirm their accounts. The beta has been around for awhile, but Vero will have to first prove to Instagram that they're a serious competitor.

I would love for Instagram to go back to their old algorithm because I want to see posts when they're posted, not when they decide.

[feardeer]

I don't use Insta and have no plans to, so I'm kind of intrigued by an alternative.
But there are several reasons I won't be using Vero.

1 - My phone isn't compatible lmao. I strongly dislike app-only social media anyway.
2 - I personally wouldn't pay for any kind of social media when there is an abundance of free, flourishing alternatives. Even if they're not perfect--Vero won't be either.
3 - The fact that people may have to pay to use Vero pretty much guarantees a smaller audience. Users won't be able to reach people who can't/won't pay or can't/don't use mobile services. Internationally, this is a pretty big pool of folks.

So yeah, I'm gonna pass. Not that I have much of a choice haha.

[ToxicRamen]

I tried signing up but for some reason, I can't seem to get connected.

[robotboy]

I think the app got bad luck. It became too popular in a short period of time. That made many people join the app posting poor quality random content and looking for being the explorers of a new world, hoping for many easy followers.
I think it is funny, cause if you look into the human story, it sounds like the european exploration of the american continent. A lot of people migrating for a new land (Vero) in hope to get easy wealth (followers).

The developers are having a lot of work to keep the app running while a wave of new users arrive. I think it will become a cool app since they don`t charge all users.

[heterodont]

It's definitely just the hype train right now. It's very likely going to fall out of popularity much like every other "THIS IS THE NEXT TUMBLR/TWITTER!" alternative.

the app itself is also very..odd? it doesn't have usernames so it's going to be hard to directly link someone to your work (unless I'm dumb and haven't figured out that part yet) but that already left a bad taste in my mouth. It seems like its trying to do one too many things and stretching themselves pretty thin but that's just imo. I'm probably gonna forget about it.

[Zaboem]

I am am behind the times, I have not made am Instagram account yet. Now, it looks like Insta will be replaced before I do that.

Also, do get off my lawn whippersnappers.

[NanettesClouds]

I got one basically so I could make this joke:

(also that's me in my halloween costume from last year. I went as a "dad". The hat says "heck the system". I thought it was appropriate)

I'm not sure how/if I'm actually gonna use vero. It kinda reminds me of google + but less shady.

[starknights]

it doesn't have usernames so it's going to be hard to directly link someone to your work

This honestly bugs me the most. If you have a very common name, it can be hard to find you. For now, I've used my usual artist name.

[joe_galindez]

"Joseph Dino Galindez, the fantasy author?"

"No, Joseph Raul Galindez the Florida sex offender."

[MissMagicGirl]

I got it since it is free now and who knows? If it gets big in the future then it is better to have a free account and if it doesn't? Well, I can delete it later

[starknights]

After doing some more research into the app and learning about the CEO, I've decided to jump off the Vero hype train. I submitted a request to delete my account. I admit, I totally feel guilty for jumping on the hype train in the first place.

[joannekwan]

What did you find out about the CEO?

[starknights]

There's been several stories within the past day about the CEO Ayman Hariri and his former company that mistreated thousands of their employees. Due to that backlash, his team has been contacting news outlets to correct their stories, including some shady editing his Wikipedia page to reflect the new info. The people who developed the app I'm also not sure about, as I really dislike how Facebook is so intrusive, it's like they'll show ads about what you dreamed about last night.

Not to mention I've had several issues with the app, such as it being really buggy, having to use a phone number to sign up along with an account, and a beautiful UI but hard to actually find people. I've found engagement to be really poor, too.

Of course, this is from what I read and it was enough to move me to delete my account. If anyone else continues to use the service, I'm interested in how and if the service will continue on.

[Shanny8]

And I don't know, maybe this blew up just like Mastodon did?

I dont have a Mastodon account. I gave it some thought, then shrugged my shoulders about it. Besides, if I'm following my fellow peer artists there, then who do I promote my art/comics to? Instagram is already collecting dust for me- I signed up for it, and dont use it; just something about blogging with my phone "ONLY" doesnt work with me. I barely use Twitter & stuff on my phone unless I feel the need to.

So for Vero- right now, I'm still trying to justify having Instagram...