What is the point of DownArrows on Comments if I can't downvote

[ScratchCardStor]

Talking about commenting underneath the comics, not comments in the forums.

I'm serious this is a lie, making people think they can downvote and then clicking the button and realizing they can't; destroys the magic.

Just look at producthunt.com they use an upvote without a downvote system and there are even some subreddits that do not allow downvoting due to the nature of discussion they provide.

Now I'm not sure if other people are allowed to downvote or no one is so I belive it will really clear the air for all of us to have some clarity on this up and down system for the comments.

[PotooGryphon]

Honestly, I've never found a need or want for the down vote arrow. I've never used it. I wouldn't miss it at all if it just disappeared.

[UzukiCheverie]

I think you -can- downvote, you just can't do it if there are no votes to begin with. Downvotes just decreases the current of upvotes, I think :I so like, if there are 10 upvotes, and you downvote, it'll be 9 upvotes. Kinda weird I guess, but it also encourages commenting a bit more; I'd much rather that over just clicking an "upvote" or "downvote" button for everything u o u

[minzinger]

I believe @daronakira or @brianorlando are the best people to answer this question.

[daronakira]

Actually, you absolutely can downvote. If you click upvote (blue) or down (red) the color change indicates that your vote has been saved and counted. The number displayed is only for the total upvotes, and hovering allows you to see who upvoted the comment (similar to recent likes and subscribes).

We don't show the total number of downvotes, nor the list of down-voters, and downvotes are not sutracted directly from the count shown (as that is just the total upvotes). We could change the count displayed to act as a total (upvote = +1 and dowvote = –1), but our intention was to focus on the positive feedback and promoting support within the community. Downvoted comments are pushed down, but we don't show a negative count or red numbers. On a similar note, way back when we experimented with a "dislike" button next to the like button... but instead of useful critique it led mostly to hurt feelings.

I did notice there's a small bug where if you unclick a downvote the color of the counter changes (as if you upvoted), but the count shown is still correct. We'll fix that.

We'll discuss tweaking which count we show (upvotes vs. total vs. two separate counts), but rest assured your votes (up or down) are definitely counted. Sometimes there are bugs, sometimes things might not work the way you'd prefer, but we're never intentionally lying to you or trying to destroy your magic! Sorry you feel that way.

[PotooGryphon]

Not that my feelings get hurt when someone negatively comments or votes on my comic, but I personally prefer promoting a positive supportive community as well. Showing the number of downvotes might wear on sensitive creators where they'll start to focus on those numbers, as well as possibly subconsciously influence group thinking for harsher commenters to start piling up the down votes to certain creators. Tapastic's currently positive and supportive community is absolutely one of Tapastic's best features.

[Strontium]

Sometimes, since I'm often using this site on my ipad, I click the down vote by mistake. I try clicking it again to "undo" the action, is that what solves it? I don't want to down vote anything on purpose.

[elixiadragmire]

Hehe yeah I've done the same too

[Strontium]

I don't understand how I, with my very small hands and slight fingers, can be so ham-handed when it comes to pressing buttons on my ipad XD

[PotooGryphon]

LOL that would make for a hilarious short strip comic. Slight fingers, turning into a ham-hand and down votes a comic on accident, the creator is on the other side of the computer with mixed emotions as the person tries to undo, liking and disliking. lol

[Chuckles]

I'd say the community here is so nice that downvoting doesn't quite make sense...

[ScratchCardStor]

So downvotes are counted but not shown? I don't understand the purpose for that. If you do have a master plan which involves counting downvotes but not publicly showing them and don't want to tell me, then that's fine; but I honestly don't see the need for a downvoted button when as @Chuckles said that the community is so nice that downvoting doesn't quite make sense.

It really is a wonder that the staff at Tapastic has managed to create such a friendly community, if I ever decide to get my entrepreneur on, I would like to build a community just like this one.

[ScratchCardStor]

Completely agree with you.

[daronakira]

Hopefully we'll get an iPad / tablet app out there eventually, or at least create a more tablet-friendly version of the mobile site. The main site really isn't ideal for tapping, but the mobile web and app don't really look great on tablets so I understand why you'd use it!

You're right that tapping/clicking downvote (or upvote, for that matter) will undo the vote that you cast. The down (or up) arrow should change back to gray when you undo a vote, back from the blue or red when the vote originally registered.

[Strontium]

Ok cool! Thanks for the answers.

[michaelson]

So downvotes are counted but not shown? I don't understand the purpose for that. If you do have a master plan which involves counting downvotes but not publicly showing them and don't want to tell me, then that's fine; but I honestly don't see the need for a downvoted button when as @Chuckles said that the community is so nice that downvoting doesn't quite make sense.

As Daron said earlier, it's meant to push down comments since the default view is ranked in order of best. It's a community moderation tool.

[yuliusefferven]

I think it's cool, It's an awesome extra secret vote option for my comic-game YUM