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Mar 2020

There is no way I'm going to ban that poor fool who paid attention to the story, coming up with theories and accidentally got the plot twist. Banning anyone with a good theory, or erasing the comment is just the same as confirming the guess

Rewriting the plot is actually dangerous for a few reasons. It might not work with the plot you have already established, which can potentially lead to a plot hole. It can change the tone of the story that you are trying to tell. It can break the character. Also, too much work.

Misleading can be useful if you use them well :wink: . But be mindful that your viewer may have a trust issue with you afterward :joy:

Do nothing is the safest out of all given options. It works really well if you are the person who rarely interact with your audience. But if you are someone who always responds to a comment, then suddenly you don't reply to a comment, it is giving away some hints. But, your secret is still safe and you might give that fool a big joy when the twist drops.

That's my two cents. Thank you for reading my essay :wink:

I never change the plot, because unless you're reeaaaaally good at writing on the fly and making sure all the groundwork you laid down still makes sense with the new twist it never works and the reader is disappointed. Modern shows have this problem all the time. they'd rather surprise you than make sense, and a plot twist should make sense. I tend to think there's always at least one person who will get it if you've laid your groundwork (or sometimes via wild guess and "hey crack theory") but how I respond depends on the plot twist they guessed but generally things like "you'll have to wait and see" are good noncommittal answers whenever someone has a theory, right or wrong.I don't really want to lie to the readers, but I don't want to confirm something in case people reading the comments who haven't guessed it have the surprise spoiled.

I'd be thrilled if someone guessed some of the big plot twist later on tbh (later on because atm there's not enough stuff to make a solid theory ahdjgkg).

Yesterday @Chita and I were screaming in WhatsApp because she discovered a big big clue I left in the last few pages and I had a blast (I'm not gonna confirm which ones were true so hahahaha :wink:).

My mindset when setting the story and scenes is: ok, I want to leave lots of clues and have as much visual information as my skills allow me to so that if a reader is invested they will have a lot of puzzle pieces and have fun guessing.

At the same time, I want things to be clear and understandable. I don't want to make some confusing plot twists. I'd not like my story to ever be perceived as pure shock value material x'D I think the characters and story are interesting on their own even if you know what's going to happen.

The thing is: If a reader guesses some big plot twist, I'd take a similar approach as @darthmongoose (it'd take a lot of willpower because I seriously need to learn how to keep my secrets hahahaha) and after that go give a big hug to my sis or something in excitement. It'd mean I had achieved just what I wanted <3

Leave it as it is. If they guessed your plot twist that mean you established it well. Just do not confirm and keep going with your work.

PS. When readers guess plot twist they are often satisfied by that.

@AbelDraws AAAAAAH, YOU JUST CAN'T TAG ME LIKE THAT JUST TO NOT CONFIRM ANY THEORIES :cry_02: (joking, I luv you. And thanks to showing me this topic!)
I think I'd do nothing. Just play dumb if someone just comes to me with a correct theory like "I know this will happen!" "Oh, will it? :sip:" which would be my reaction to all theories, wrong and right ones.
Well, to be honest, if the bigger plotwists in my story were correctly guessed at the very beggining of it when nothing has been foreshadowed in any way then I'd probably rewrite the plot just because It would be really predicable. But in any other way I'd just keep quiet and let readers do their research, feeling pretty happy when one of them discovers the truth.
@darthmongoose It's okay you're salty. I haven't even seen GOT and I'm salty about the ending

I'd acknowledge the comment (aka like and/or reply) but don't say whether they're right or wrong. So just like with any other guess in comments :grin:

Play mindgames or do nothing if I can't think of anything at the time. Responding to comments is important! But also, a non-answer sometimes might be the answer(I get enough practice tiptoeing around game spoilers with my friends, where "well I can't say anything about this" is a clear "this character gonna die"), so it's good to play cheeky a little bit and bring up the (at the time not known) red herrings.

I actually have some plans for when the plot starts proper on Splitting Image. A lot of things lead up to one conclusion, but a lot of winding paths from the multiple-answer evidence means I can just reply "can you be sure Mortimer didn't eat that bagel, he doesn't have an alibi" which is right, but at the same time, not the right thing to answer.

Also, as I recall Byelacey saying on twitter a while back, if someone figures out your plot from your clues, you're doing something right because there's a well written path to the conclusion. A story doesn't gain much from "subverting expectations", lest we become Game of Thrones; and you can't deliberately hide your clues from the audience and expect them to enjoy it when the solution comes out of nowhere (or offscreen).

I said do nothing, but take out "pray that no one notices"

I don't really care all that much? If anything, I'm hella hyped up because that means people are paying attention. I'd be even more excited if it also sparks discussion and a little bit of civil debate over my comic. I want that interaction. I want people excited for my work.

Now, if the commenter has some condescending "oh, this story is one of those because of XYZ" tone -- I just...ignore them. Because the story isn't for them, but they need to have their little soapbox moment. Usually when it comes to that case, other readers are good at saying "don't like, don't read" or something XD

That happened like twice, but it was my own fault for dropping hints when people were like "Now I really wanna know what happens next !". I actually PMed them and politely asked if they wouldn't mind editing the comment where they hit the nail on the head, which they were kind enough to do.
Still, I had lots of plot things going on, so even with them guessing one, there was still stuff happening they didn't see coming. So not a total loss.

That's the trick, I guess : Have more than one plot twist.

Also, I have learned not to underestimate how clever my readers are, so no more hints. :slight_smile:

..and I was unaware that we can ban people.

Lol, if I ever get enough subs to warrant a troll, I'd be so excited I'd smother it with affection. It would ban itself out of pure embarassment.

Why not? If it spreads, it'll spoil the whole thing for lots of readers. While there are people who are "eh, spoilers, whatever, it's not the destination it's the journey yadda-yadda", there is a large enough amount of people for whom knowing in advance how the things will unfold is a serious downer (Which means "they might lose interest and stop reading"). Especially if mystery is a major part of the plot.

Well until you are as popular as G.R.R.Martin, I think you're good =) This is just one theory from one person and their opinion may change in the next chapter. You won't go and rewrite the plot you thought through some time ago because of one comment, won't you? :thinking:

I am (not a writer) thinking of this as a published author. They publish the book and they are done. Reader's comments don't bother them and their plot. The same should be here. Sometimes I panic when people make comments because they think something is suspicious (and it's not), but I already drew the next 5 pages, so I don't believe I should think about it anymore.
Or it would be like you redraw your comic every time someone is saying they don't like your style ¯ \ _ (ツ) _ / ¯

Guessing one aspect of a story doesn't change how it's told. Like yeah, they know the big plot twist, but they're not gonna know how it'll go down or how I'll reveal it.Even more so, predicting parts of stories has been around for a while. That's a given. Some people get it right, some people don't.

Example -- Unohana from Bleach had always, ALWAYS, been predicted to be the previous Kenpachi for the Soul Society. Why? Because although she was soft-spoken and was the medical division, people were afraid of crossing her. People would never challenge her. And you know what? That turned out to be right. But this was a prediction built up on people paying attention to the story for years (because again -- Bleach is a 20+ year manga). People could see those little moments and infer.

That's why I said I don't care.

If you can figure out my story telling, follow along, and understand, it means you were paying attention. It means you were captivated enough to try and see how I could spin the plot twist.

If I get readers like that, I'm set.

People who go "oh, this story sucks because XYA" are people who aren't my readers. They just guess and happen to be right. I can't just quit a story or try and stop the commenter because someone guesses right on coincidence. Because again -- nothing is set in stone, and for me to try and stop someone would imply that it is.

It implies that I think my story is so flimsy that one little comment breaks it down.

And that's silly.

I just let that shit ride, keep writing my story, and so on. People are gonna be impressed whether they know a prediction came true or not. I know because I've kept reading stories that made predictions come true.

No it won't. Unless the author confirms the plot point, it's not a spoiler, just a fan theory. No other reader is obliged to agree with how someone else thinks a story will end and having a plausible theory in mind will likely just make how it actually unfolds that much more satisfying. The thing is that, lot of times the audience will guess what will happen, but they won't guess the mechanisms through which those plot points are met, meaning that there's still space for them learn something new.

I also want to add something separate from my OG posts:

Predictions are not necessarily spoilers.

So someone guessed your plot twist and it's right -- ok. Other people don't know that. Only you, the creator, know that, and they're only right if you decide to tell them they're right early on as opposed to just...letting them guess and see if they're right.

Not to be rude (but I'm gonna be blunt and rude) the reason why a lot of creators don't and shouldn't care if the big plot twisted is guessed is:

If all your story has is a big surprising plot twist and once that's spoiled there's nothing else to keep your audience invested, it's a shitty story.

If the only reason people are reading/watching/viewing is to be surprised by the plot twist and then if it's spoiled the entire story is boring, that means your characters are boring, your world is boring, you plot is boring if it didn't have the twist and you have created something that has, at most, one reread/rewatch to see the foundations and go "ooooh now that makes sense". While a good story, I can and do rewatch/reread millions of time even knowing they're all dead all along/the monsters are really huma/everyones an alien vampire because the plot twist is just one piece of a bigger, more riveting story that I can enjoy even knowing the twist, and I would think most creators here are trying to create a good story and not just a giant plot twist with the illusion of a story around it. It's the same difference as creating a good horror film, or creating just a string of jump scares and going "well it scared them".

Well there is more ways to enjoy a story.
In most stories it isn't that big a secret that the hero will win and don't die. That's like a everyday spoiler the audience know. But they still look forward to see HOW the hero will win and how the hero won't die.

So if someone guessed that your hero won't die and that's the polt, just play along with something like:" We don't know that yet, and if that's true.. how will the Hero manage that?"

God, what a hilarious attitude to take to a reader being right.. just BANNING them

They only got to their conclusion bc they were invested in your story that much, let 'em keep reading it lol