When you're lineart is neat but not neat enough to easily colour in 🔪🔪

[smokesalty]

OH MY GOD. people have recommended that one very handy fill in tool for clip studio but it doesn't work for me 99% of the time

AND BEFORE ANYONE SAYS INCREASE THE CLOSE GAP THING I ALREADY TRIED

I concider myself to have pretty neat lineart but because I work quickly and focus more on brush stroke, I don't tend to close in some areas!! And a lot of the time I don't notice. So going back and fixing it is JUST UGH

If you look closely, you'll see there's a ton of gaps in some areas! (most people don't notice when reading because I pride myself on line confidence heheh) BUT I will never not feel the pain of using the magic wand tool and it selecting half the canvas

Could be worse, but UGH. WHEN YOU HAVE NEAT LINEART YOUR COLOURING NEEDS TO LOOK CRISP AS WELL

I dunno, please tell me someone understands my pain, or give me tips or smn

[Kelheor]

I totally feel your pain I am drawing with strokes, not one continuous line (which is probably a mauvais ton among the actual professional line artists, but what do I know) so even after I clean it 5 times... A play of "find a gap"!

[DualDragons]

I feel you. My lineart for my current comic tends to be rough so the fill tool is not my best friend in my case

so when I only use the fill tool a couple of times

big yikes
I tend to flatten my pages by hand and not with fill tools. Because even if I use the fill tool multiple times it will leave a lot of white spaces

[igneriss]

I know that pain ; -; I think my lineart is very clean, but still there always is one tiny gap playing hide and seek with me and not allowing me to use a magic wand / fill tool. Sometimes this gap is so hard to find that it would be quicker to just colour manually with brush pen

[allenT]

Hehe I feel you, I always have open lines and I just paint the flats in as usual-- it's a habit I don't mind the time spending. .

[Lensing]

Why don´t you use the lasso tool?

[Kelheor]

In the end it needs quite a precision too. Don't know about others, but I tried using it for some time after seeing a few videos with comic colorists. Using lasso tool felt as I could've spend the same time cleaning line art so there will be no gaps... So I either clean the lines (never a bad thing) to use a bucket or do it manually, or both when it has the same hatching problem as Dual wrote.

[Legendofgenii]

It’s a pain, especially as gaps in the lineart can be necessary sometimes.

I just paint with a brush on a layer underneath.

[Lensing]

I work more precise and faster with the lasso and I don´t feel like it takes a lot of precision skill to work precise with it.
I did the bucket for decades and the painting unter the lineart too, it´s not a good technique in my opinion

[Kelheor]

Well, things don't always work the same for different people But I see your point and it's possible it didn't occur to some artists to use it yet, so maybe you pointing it out will be helpful for someone here!

[migxmeg]

Not a good technique? How so?

[Lensing]

I agree on that, many ways lead to Rome

[Lensing]

Underpainting the colors takes too long, the bucket is not precise and you have to fill gaps, when you want
speed and precision the lasso tool is the most professional in my opinion.
You can adjust the bucket tool in photoshop and clip, so it works more precise but there are limits you
will face

[smokesalty]

I mean for some people. but when I do it, it usually leaves a ton of gaps because I'm not 100% accurate with it. It's annoying to use personally with clip studio's one since once you let go it selects the entire area. I think I'd have an easier time with procreate's one but I don't use the app

My main method is using the magic wand tool and then selecting with the lasoo tool where it's needed additionally.

[Lady_T_Musings]

Ohmaigawd, The amount of time trying to find where the dang gap is in someone's hair is wild and anything with a ton of tiny lines like trees, Yo, you better fill in the base outline and then put detail lines on top or else you gonna be there all day or say flip it and manually color it and clean up edges. That lil trick only works for digital line art.

Though working in Procreate has made it a lot easier for me to recognize my gaps and find them since I don't have a 100 layers per page, I still have to make sure everything is closed so I can fill my lines and not the entire page DX.

[Lady_T_Musings]

Also I wanna squish the cheeks of your number cuties up there. U3U

[RosesnWater]

Does anyone here use Kritas magical wand?? I still have to do a couple touch ups after using it but its sort of intuitive in that although I have breaks in my lines, it does most of the work and seems to know when one break is intentional and another isn’t-

Like for instance these are some examples of my lines which can get very fine/non existent.

you can really see where the lines weaken because the ‘colours’ i filled in the spaces became a little more rough near these breaks, but it doesn’t bleed into the other space.

I’m not sure if this would help anyone but it’s made a huge difference in the amount of work I have to put in-

[RosesnWater]

Okay wait no- I have a better image for this to show what I mean because the lines are even more sketch like, but the magical wand is still able to mostly guess what I’m doing

Just an example of the types of breaks I have and Krita is still able to fill in pretty reliably (and if I feel the space where colour meets colour is still too rough I can always smooth it out after with a paint brush tool)

[rajillustration]

Yeah, I have exactly the same problem as you, which is why I had to change my style to thicker lines that close all the way. when I was doing a style with open lines, I used a lot of screentones to shade, which allowed things to be imperfect without it being a problem, and I could get shading down fairly quickly, which was perfect for black and white (which is probably why manga's used screentones for eons), but doesn't work for color.

Also, I find that the paint bucket in CSP tends to leave gaps, which don't always close where I want them when I use the gap fill tool. So I switched to using https://www.flatto.nl/ (it's a free browser site that will do a flats for you so it defines selection areas, that you can select with your wand without aliasing on, and then you can fill in a separate layer) and after I use flatto.nl I will go in and refine those areas with a brush set to dissolve since it still won't catch everything. Thing is flatton is really sensitive to gaps more so than CSP so it might not work, but making a flatting layer has helped me a lot with just defining where selections are going to be so I stop getting these surprises.

[Fafnir]

Yeah.. I have this issue. I've played with he paint tool so much. I've decided its just a tool like any other tool... to be used alongside others. I use the "Lasso Fill" tool alot. and the magic wand selection, which seems to be more accurate than the paint bucket, and you can expand the selection.
My lines are not fancy, and prety tight and closed. still doesnt quite work. I think if you use vector lines, its better. But I hate vector lines. You can get much smoother lines, and adjust the line width, and all kinds of cool things, But for just fast simple line work, i hate vector