Which Genre Label Should I be Using LGBT+ or BL?

Geek_Aflame 2020-07-19 01:25:11 UTC #4

It's definitely not anime hentai-ish, lol. The romance is fluffy and there are no explicit sex scenes. I like to joke that the story is a dark paranormal fantasy glued together with corn syrup because the main relationship is so fluffy and sweet.

Inspector_Spinda 2020-07-19 01:46:25 UTC #5

cotton candy comic lol

kmlangleyauthor 2020-07-19 01:49:28 UTC #6

I honestly had the same question of my story. Now that @Bree_Mana has clarified what each one constitutes, I’m wondering if I should switch mine to LGBTQ+ as my main genre because there is an overarching plot other than the romance through the whole story.

With the ability to have multiple genres tagged, does it matter anyway? I have my story listed as BL, LGBTQ+, and Slice of Life.

nostalgicroxas 2020-07-19 01:50:12 UTC #7

Go with whichever you're most comfortable with.

In my experience from just skimming genre's: Romance is all smut, BL is all smut, and LBGT+ is just "coming out of the closet to my family/loved ones" clichés.

None of them fit well when boiled down to their historic bad tropes. I've been so annoyed by LBGT+ stories all being along the same vein in general, not this site specifically, that I kind of eye roll when I see the genre listed because I just expect it to be nothing but the "coming out!" stories and nothing past that. It's like Hallmark christmas movies cringes

Eye other genres too, like Genre and Fantasy if they apply, or Slice of Life.

Inspector_Spinda 2020-07-19 01:54:50 UTC #8

nothing wrong with a good coming out story in my option, but i definitely know what you mean. haha. a few years ago i was in a fandom with lots of young children. i assume most of them were not LGBT, but they were very supportive of the community. 99% of the LGBT stories were copy paste, but you can't really fault them. they're young and they're trying. when i was that age my imagination was even more limited x'D

For sure they do! like fantasy. the cliche would be farm boy gets village destroy and must then set out on a journey to defeat the dark lord with the help of a magic sword and a strong warrior woman who ultimately must be saved so there will be a romance subplot.

nostalgicroxas 2020-07-19 02:00:06 UTC #9

Tableflips all up and down the woman must be saved when she starts off strong. that is the most annoying plot. right up there with the "depressed / introvert / smart person is the butt of every joke and yelled at to shut up" or "depression is funny ha ha". But that's usually more of a sitcom/movie thing. I have seen it in a few books here and there regarding LBGT+ where the person depressed or concerned about their "coming out" is worried about people's reactions, either justified or not, and that's made to be ha-ha lighthearted "don't worry" and I'm like, have you never Psych 101 class before?~

foxnflames 2020-07-19 02:09:02 UTC #10

I had the same hesitation with my story. My story will ultimately have my main character end up with another man, but like yours, romance is a subplot and if i could, romance would be a 4th label. My story will involve some other LGBT+ characters but the reason why i chose to go with BL or LGBTQ+ was because the romance between the two characters is a huge part of the flow of the story and one of the takeaways. VVBG did a twitch stream for Fujocon and Michi made a good distinction between the two. BL does come with the tropes (good and bad) and is more so focused on the relationship between two male main characters (whether quintessential romance or not) and LGBTQ+ doesn't necessarily have to have romance. It better serves as a scope for representation of people within that community. So BL falls under the umbrella of LGBTQ+ but it still has its own little niche. (just the gist of it, she said it way better than that lol(

That being said, i think that with what you described about your story, it may be better to go with the LGBTQ+ label. When you add tags to your story, you can always add "boys love", "BL", "MxM", etc. I stuck with BL and put LGBTQ+ in the tags. And because your story already has them as an established couple, you can have more leeway so to speak that you might not get if it was just BL.

Inspector_Spinda 2020-07-19 02:10:36 UTC #11

I was about to say the same. My hesitancy comes here: will the BL label make people who don't like it less likely to click on the story even if it also has the LGBT label? How much do the BL and LGBT interests demographics overlap? That's the key here

nostalgicroxas 2020-07-19 02:14:28 UTC #12

As a reader, I find more joy in reading M/M stories which is the only reason I go to the BL tag since I know it's male's. If I go to the LBGT+ I might be reading F/F, which just isn't usually my cup of tea. I have read a few trans that have been fine. So it'll depend on what the readers are filtering for, and why.
And again, are they filtering for smut/sex - which should not be a question on Tapas specifically since their rules state it should not be focus or graphic.

Inspector_Spinda 2020-07-19 02:14:31 UTC #13

point well made. suppose LGBT doesn't have to mean romance. Theoretically, a story could just be a LGBT culture story devoid of romance. Did not actually think of that because most stories here have some element of romance.

Geek_Aflame 2020-07-19 02:17:01 UTC #14

This is why I've edged towards using paranormal before fantasy when describing my genres. While my story is modern fantasy due to the hard magic system I feel overshadowed by the high/quest fantasy within the genre. My story is more the Dresden Files, Rivers of London, The Southern Vampire Mysteries/True Blood, Alex Verus, The Magicians, Supernatural or Shadowhunters type of fantasy.

Inspector_Spinda 2020-07-19 02:18:14 UTC #15

now if only tap had a paranormal genre. i need it badly

nostalgicroxas 2020-07-19 02:19:17 UTC #16

Agreed. I'd say Supernatural is more Paranormal than Fantasy, when really it could encompass both. The problem is that, especially US readers, are geared to think of Fantasy as European fantasy of knights, castles, dragons, damsels in distress, or flat out magic of gods like The Lord of the Rings/Narnia. And there's no anything else in between, when ghosts/afterlife can be entirely fantasy.
It's also why High Fantasy does not equal Fantasy.

Geek_Aflame 2020-07-19 02:22:12 UTC #17

I'd like to watch this if you still have a link, it sounds interesting.

foxnflames 2020-07-19 02:24:57 UTC #18

I’ll have to find it. I’m thinking it’s still up

foxnflames 2020-07-19 02:26:47 UTC #19

Most do and some have more intricate relationships that may take darker turns or not end with a neatly wrapped relationship. You can go a lot of places with BL

Geek_Aflame 2020-07-19 02:30:21 UTC #20

100%. I recently swapped my main genre on another site to Paranormal because I feel like there's more of a place for the story I'm writing.

Even my second novel would work better under Paranormal as it's an urban fantasy focusing on Vampires. I used the Vampire genre on the other site for that story but had to place it under Fantasy here.

foxnflames 2020-07-19 02:32:49 UTC #21

They haven’t posted the link yet but here are other streams that might be helpful

foxnflames 2020-07-19 04:19:10 UTC #22

Another suggestion: label it romance, mystery, fantasy or lgbtq+, mystery, fantasy. You can still put BL on the thumbnail to convey that relationship is present in the story. I’ve seen BL stories on here labeled as romance only. Like I said before, you can go a lot with BL; it can be romance, psychological, slice of life, comedy, etc.

Bree_Mana 2020-07-19 06:25:23 UTC #23

again I think its more on if you want certain connotations attached to your comic, maybe look at a sampling of other BL works on tapas to see if your comic fits the archetype?