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Mar 2021

Stealing from this thread: https://forums.tapas.io/t/why-do-you-like-bl/566883 (Don't promote your story please)

What parts of GL stories do you like the most? What do you read GL stories for?

For me, I've always loved the way that the characters often don't fit neatly into some romance archetypes. In manga especially, hetero shoujo stories have a few stock character types, and BL stories too. Both of those genres have plenty of great stories, but when I was a teen perusing manga sites, it was the GL that always jumped out at me for its memorable couples; because GL is so much less popular, the cliches and stereotypes haven't been fully "standardized" yet, so there's lots of variety even in the, uh, lower-quality work... of which there is a great many lol.

However, being a lot less popular means there's also just not that many stories overall, so GL stories often end up as subplots within fantasy stories (e.g. Madoka Magica, She-Ra) rather than being the focus. It's sad, but I'm always hoping that someday it'll catch on in a big way.

So how about you?

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I'm gay and gl as you said can be more real than other manga genres. That's it basically

Why do I love GL?
That’s a very good question that I’m not sure how to answer.

First. I define myself as a stereotyped friendly “Man” by the old book but with an open mind.

By that, I have some basic instinct that I can choose to follow or ignore, but they are there.

When I see a loving couple of human males and females, I see the love in the eyes of the girl but I see the rival in the eyes of the boy. And this disturbs my enjoyment of their love.
Classic thoughts like: “He’s a jerk, I’m a better man for her” can come easily to me. Because my instincts compare how I could make that girl happy.

In BL I have no personal interest to compare anything because I have no interest in getting emotionally interested in any of the two boys love. But I’m happy for them and I can see in there eyes that love is love.
And even that I have a BL series of my own that I enjoy writing I have a larger GL collection in my library than BL.

But why do I react on GL as a reader and not that much at BL?

I guess that I can see pure love in the eyes of both girls without any personal disturbing emotions.
Because my instincts only wish any girl to be happy, and I can’t be a rivalry in Girls Love.
So I can eas my mind knowing that they are happy and in love.

Question is. Why do I not write GL?
Because I have no idea of how the female mind works, I can only enjoy it.

I haven't read a lot of GL (maybe about 3) but the ones I have read are considered shoujo-ai and they were cute. I like the friendships that blossom to relationships and uplifting each other and sending away bad guys.

Awesome, I was hoping this thread would pop up eventually!

Basically what @sc101 said: As for me, I'm a lesbian and wlw characters are infinitely more relatable and interesting. However, they have to be done well. I can tell when a wlw "relationship" is there just for representation credits or fanservice.

I agree that there aren't very many tropes yet, but I like that it allows more freedom, and in a way, more variety plot-wise. It's like there's a genre for everyone. (And if not, you can create it yourself)

I read GL for escapism, adventure, and relationships that I can daydream about and cheer for. It's more comfortable going into a series with the confirmation that it includes queer characters, and not have to worry about queerbaiting or rely on fan headcanons. I also wish wlw relationships would be more normalized so that we'd have even more diversity - wlw pirates, trans wlw, qwoc, casual rep, well-written villains, etc. The same things that other types of media get. Hopefully the community continues to grow in the future. :smile:

I mean, GL has already been very popular in anime/manga for years...I guess the lens is different, though. In those cases, it's mostly just writers pandering to male viewers' lesbian fantasies than actually taking the relationships between the girls seriously...which is unfortunate. =/ I wonder if it'll ever reach the heights of BL with all that baggage weighing it down...

Anyway, I also appreciate the variety that GL pairings have. Personally, I think it's because they tend to focus less on having a dominant, 'masculine' one in the relationship (eliminating a whole bunch of couple stereotypes right off the bat) and more on girls of all different personality types simply getting mushy about each other. ^^
...Which is why the 'prince/princess' GL couple being the most ubiquitous is a constant disappointment to me (seriously, even Precure is doing it now...there's no escape).

....Because I'm a lesbian. :sip:

Okay but to elaborate, it's a lot easier to feel really into a romance when you can relate to it, and when you feel that the person the protagonist is attracted to is somebody you could see yourself falling in love with.

The problem with GL is a lot of it is made by um.... straight guys who fetishise lesbians rather than actual queer women. And yes, there are definitely examples of GL by dudes that are good, like Rose x Kanaya in Homestuck is my biggest ship, and I love Kat and Paz in Gunnerkrigg Court, so really the key for me is "are the female characters written and drawn like people? Or are they basically sexy props?" I can usually tell when a GL is by a queer woman because... well the kind of women we find attractive isn't necessarily the same as what men attracted to women find attractive. So like you look at Lovespells:


That's a GL by a lesbian couple, and you can tell because it's a super adorable chubby lady and this big tall beefy knight and they're both in really practical but cute outfits, and they stand like normal humans.
A lot of GL made by dudes it's like.... all the ladies have the same exaggerated wasp-waisted hourglass figure with the same pouty lipped face with a little button nose and they're all in like low-rise jeans and crop-tops or bikinis and long hair and they stand around like they're posing and it's just..... ew. I'm not attracted to that. Give me a lady who looks like somebody I could actually meet, who actually has a life, you know? Somebody I feel like I could go for a walk with and cook dinner with. Maybe she has a big nose? That's cute! Maybe she's kinda chubby? That's cute! Maybe she's kinda goth or punk? Hell yeah! Maybe she's tall and buff....oh my goodness, yes please!

Like most people in this thread, I like GL because I am a thirsty lesbian. This is like asking why so many of the popular series right now are about girls falling in love with a villain/hero's dad. It's spring, people are thirsty, and apparently DILF's are in.

I can relate to it more than BL, since I'm a woman attracted to other women. Two women together is just beautiful to me. I especially like when one of the girls are the tomboyish type. I just find it interesting.

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That never stopped me to make GL, but well, maybe my lack of any success or money is because of that, lol.

I like GL because I'm a lesbian and just wanna see women have a happy story about loving each other

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Firstly I wholly disagree with Madoka and She-ra's yuri element being 'Sub plots' in Madoka's cases it was the central conceit the plot was built around (Ie the sort of selfless struggle that only true love can motivate.). In She-ra it was one of the main driving factors of both leads for the entirety of the shows run.

That said I actually prefer it this way and tend to write it this way. A good romance within a larger fanasy work can make the payoffs and hardships so much more engaging. I think Owl house was another good attempt at this. Yeah it can blow up in your face and ruin everything but I think that gamble can be worth it.