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May 2017

The complexity and difficulty of Photoshop's interface is probably due being an industrial grade program meant for professionals. To improve functionality, they reduce convenience since I guess they assume trained users will just sort it out themselves. :'DD

As for making it less terrible, I don't think there's anything to help in regards to lineart. (I also have no tips for the UI since I don't use PS, sorry) qwq Without a stabliser tool, you're only left with naturally improving through drawing on the program, or switching to adjustable vector art. I'll second John's suggestion at just using a separate program to lineart if it's that painful.

I'm a strong believer in not letting your tool weigh you down, so if it's frustrating to the point of giving up, please try to use another program as your main. q3q

Photoshop was actually one of the first things I started using but it was so incredibly difficult I started to become convinced I was less capable than other people because I couldn't do digital art.

Then someone suggested I try a different program and I could draw fine right away. Leaving the question, why on earth is Photoshop so much more difficult to use?

Thanks. I do still use ClipStudio as my main but Photoshop is really great for painting if you can get it to work.

Even if something is for professionals, you should always start simple and let people make it more complicated as they desire. Not start complicated and force people to try to simplify it themselves. I don't know why being a professional would make you want to do things the hard way.

Because it is a professional tool with a wide range of tools to suit people from various parts of the creative field. It's difficult to understand ALL of photoshop because most people don't use all tools available. I'd say I only use 10% of the tools in photoshop.

It's okay to find most of PS to be unknown or difficult. And if you find ALL of ps difficult to use, then stop using it. I envy you because your art preferences are easier on your wallet xP

I've actually considered switching to Clip Studio for my colored stuff and quitting PS because I prefer the way the wand tool works on clip studio. The way I have to do it now, I'm forced to wait until I filled everything out and then make a bottom layer that's all black to fill out the accidentally uncolored bits in the lineart.

A cop out? Mate, I'm not defending Photoshop and I couldn't care less whether you like it or not.
You asked a question and I tried to answer it. Take it or leave it.

It wasn't an answer it was a series of poor excuses that made no sense?? Sorry I'm being kind of mean about it but I'm so tired of hearing "it's made for photo editing" as an excuse for why Photoshop's user interface is so bad.

Ugh I just want to be able to do the fancy painting you can do on Photoshop. For the few frickin minutes at a time I get it to work it really is nice. Then it does something jenky again and I have to stop to figure out what's going on.

If I could just use the few tools that are applicable to me and ignore the rest it would be fine. But Photoshop won't let me do that. It seems to have a mind of its own and likes to change settings for me so stuff starts working differently all of a sudden and I don't know what changed. Something will be working for a few minutes and then it won't be.

Wow … huh … I don't think I've ever encountered those things before? What version of PS do you have and is it legit? Also what OS do you have and what version of that is it? And for good measure, what tablet are you using?

As far as the brushes, the top settings are your basic ones (mode, opacity, flow, and different pressure settings), if you really want to tinker with a brush, that's when you go to the side menu, it should have a preview of what changing a setting does. You can set a brush to how you want and save all the settings for it as a new brush. (fyi, I'm on CS6 so it may be a bit different for yours depending on the version) Go to the top bar, and in the second drop down menu where it has the brush shape and size click on the little paper icon with the folded corner to create a new brush preset. You can then select this brush anytime you want.

Hand tool glitch: can't say for certain but that might be a hardware software issue? Like sometimes if I'm zoomed in on the canvas and use the brush at a certain size, a mirrored section of the workspace appears all glitchy at the left of my screen and goes away after I zoom out. I looked it up and it's just some compatibility issue with the current Mac OS and CS6. It was worse before I did research and found a plug-in to remedy it. It's fixed for the most part but will still come up on occasion. It's annoying but not "stop the presses I can't work anymore" annoying.

Window mode. Hm, well there's three window mode types and perhaps by trying one or the other it can fix your problem? The first mode is where it's a free floating window and the border takes on whatever border your OS uses. Then there's the tabbed mode, it's attached to the top PS bar and if you have multiple tabs open you can see them all there, kind of like an internet browser. Then there's another mode (you can switch between window modes by hitting "f") where it jumps "into" the window and you can't see the tab anymore. Well, there's also a "display" mode where you go one more step and it just shows your canvas against a black background and all the tools/UI are hidden.

Right hand section: I believe you can move those sections around. Like if they're tabs in the same group you can grab one and move it out of the group and place it above or below.

Disconnect: Do you mean lag? Because it might be another hardware software issue? There's no lag for me when I'm drawing in PS on my Mac, but when I try CSP on my PC I feel it's not as quick and there's just the smallest of lags. I would do some research to try and pinpoint this.

Look mate, if you want people to parrot your words, that's fine, but I'm simply telling you what I have discovered over 20 years of making comics and using different software over that time.
If you think I'm making 'excuses' I suggest you read again. As I said before, if you want to make comics, there's better software out there because Photoshop is not made for it.
I really don't know what you want to hear and frankly I couldn't care less as it seems that you want to fight me over something YOU are having problems with.
You are a great reminder of why I don't frequent these forums anymore.

How long have you been using Photoshop?

Just from my personal experience: when I started to use it I got frustrated too, even to a point where I didn't use it at all for weeks and months at a time. I realized that it wasn't the programme that sucked, but my attitude. I expected to be able to draw nice shit right from the get go, which wasn't the case. It's a matter of practice, like with everything in life. You have to learn it step by step, it's not going to let you do fancy paintings from the start.
The interface isn't bad in my opinion, but it takes some time to get used to it. If I have issues finding the right feature or Photoshop does weird stuff I don't want it to do, I just google it. 99% of the time there is a solution in the form of tutorials. But getting mad at Photoshop never helped me making progress in learning the programme.

... Well, I will just say my opinion that some people can use Photoshop for painting extraordinary art.

Example : Sakimi-chan. She use Photoshop to draw and if you didn't know her, go check her DA : http://sakimichan.deviantart.com/13

And well, I think that the tools is just a tools. You can even use MS Paint and get extraordinary art out of it if you compatible with it. I means, I have see a lot people make awesome art using Photoshop, MS Paint, Corel, SAI, Fire Alpaca and many more programs. I even found someone who can draw on Excel lol. No kidding, google it.

So well, if Photoshop isn't suitable for you then just move on to the next app. There is many cheap or even free drawing app to choose.

Just my 2 cent.

I have CC 2017 Photoshop. It's from Adobe's official website and looks the same as the Photoshop on the school computers does (minus the language change) so I have no reason to believe it's not the official version (besides it being terrible). I have Windows 10 on an Acer computer and I use a Wacom Pen & Touch Small.

Why are the basic settings at the top? That's less accessible than the window on the side. I think I managed to save my brush preset but it doesn't really matter because it still likes to change brushes on me for some reason.

I don't think the window thing is a glitch I think Photoshop is just lacking a feature I liked in other programs which is the ability to move the canvas around within the black background so I can get it centered even if I don't have interface centered on my screen.

Right hand section: I try to move them around but it just won't let me have more than 3 open at a time in that section. It's weird because there's all this extra space the windows are stretching to fill but I can't put another window in there without one of the ones that was already there folding up.

Disconnect: Maybe it is lag? I guess it's similar to how it is when I don't have my tablet on the correct screen setup. I'll do some research.

I'm talking about practice. It's a complete different thing. The most skilled and so called "talented" people are able to bring whatever software they are using to their full potential, because - guess what - they practiced. A lot.
Allowdley Photoshop is pretty complex. But in my opinion the more often you try, the better you become. That's all I'm gonna add to that conversation.

You're missing the point of the whole thread, though.

I'm totally satisfied with my painting ability in Photoshop. It's the fact that I frequently have to stop painting to troubleshoot that really bugs me.

Again, not a matter of practice, but of a software that isn't nearly as user friendly as it could (and, in my opinion, should) be.

Okay I appear to have fixed a couple of the issues I was having with the brush at least, so now it's much more usable compared to before. One of those issues was, admittedly, purely user error, the other one I'm still not sure what the cause was but I fixed it by replacing my brush preset.

Feels like you missed the point of your own thread. You asked for other peoples opinions, that's what I (and others) gave you.
If you only wanted help for the software issuses you should worded your first post differently and gave it a different label.

I'm starting to think you only read the last sentence of my original post and guessed at the rest, including the title.

I did read it all. But I'm not in any way obligated to contribute to all the questions. I chose the topic I had something to say about (which was this question of yours: "Does anyone else hate Photoshop like I do?") and gave my statement. That it wasn't to your liking is not my problem. If you wanted answers for only one specific matter, make that clear.

You took the question completely out of context and began talking about something irrelevant.