A Tapastic Problem

[onyisart]

Ok so I post on webtoons and I post here. But I noticed I get WAY more traffic on webtoons than I do here. Like HELLA more!

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LIKE WTF? I mean the difference is too significant.

Back in 2013/2014 when tapastic first started I was getting way more views than this for my old comics. I understand their goal is to make money from the premium comics but don't cheat the underdogs too. I've been here since the start guys and have seen y'all grow from a small to big deal! Tapastic sorry i mean Tapas has changed so much.

IF YOU'RE READING THIS TAPASTIC ADMINS when are you going to fix it for the little guys? Back in 2013/2014 you used to have a section for RECENTLY UPDATED/FRESH comics on the FRONT PAGE. I think you should add that back. It would REALLY help people SO much! It would get people to actually want to find more comics that aren't premium as well.

_Then again I'm probably just whining because I get no traffic now on the same site where I started making comics.

To be honest, I feel that posting on tapastic isn't worth the time unless you already have a LARGE following on other social media sites (which i don't), but I could be wrong, maybe my post timing is just poor (although timing didn't matter in the past). Until this is fixed, I think I might have to stick to webtoons.

Ciao.

[monotone_ink]

The issue you're talking about may also be due to webtoons just being much more popular overall. The majority of the work that is promoted there is of commercial quality, and draws more readers in - webtoons might just be a lot bigger in presence when compared to Tapas.

Take this with a grain of salt though, it's just a guess.

[daniellekoste]

I think if Tapas could advertise more to novel writers like me, they could compete with webtoon. Currently Tapas is the ONLY location (that I know of, besides subscription sites like Scribd) that offers ad revenue and a means of making money for novel writers. The other largest location for original writing is Wattpad, who is literally making money off ads and soon Wattpad premium off peoples novels that upload there for free and aren't getting compensated.

[onyisart]

You're right that webtoons is much bigger/more popular, but Tapastic gets hundreds of thousands of viewers per day. I could just be posting at the wrong time of day. . . but still. . .idk. I just wouldn't expect my OVERALL views to be 8 ( lol-this number has me dying it's so pitiful).

There are some people that do incredibly well on their first upload. I probs just have bad luck with this site now.

Oh well. I'll continue posting and see what happens. It merely won't be my priority.

[spicy_sweets]

Waitt, did you just post it this month? Have you involved yourself in the community at all?

[craftymarten]

I think a recently updated on the first page would be really good.
I'm finding that after I post on Webtoons and Comic Fury I get a couple of follows but with Tapas people don't seem to find my comic when it updates. Comic Fury has a much smaller userbase than Tapas but I've got maybe 3 or 4 times the comments despite only being on there for 2 weeks (though I've only been on Tapas for a month so I'm not expecting tons of follows right away!).

[onyisart]

Yeah I did just post this month. I haven't been in the forums promoting it or chatting because I wanted to see the potential without any community involvement.

[daniellekoste]

You can't expect that many views on your first ever post if you're not even going to advertise it anywhere. As you post more and people see your icon more often, see you updating, they'll be more inclined to give it a look.

Nobody gets views overnight. 8 is actually pretty decent for a first post. I'm lucky if I get that in a day that I post on some of my less popular/new stories...

[SleepingPoppy]

Well, you posted once on tapas, and three times on webtoons. Your description also contains slightly more insight on the webtoons version than tapas. So yeah, that alone makes a big difference. It's kind of hard to tell with one update how you'll do on Tapas. That's pretty much a roll on the dice that people happen to be looking in the fresh section on that day at around that time and that those people will be in the mood for that you're making. You gave webtoons three times the chance.

[storytimebiondi]

After reading this and giving it some thought, I think it's safe to say that it's okay to use multiple platforms to build an audience. They have different users, and may attract a different crowd.

I do agree that Tapas doesn't favour the little guy much, and that is something they need to work through. But in the meantime, just enjoy the work and keep posting :3

[SleepingPoppy]

Adding that @onyisart webtoons stuff has been up, and with more content, for more time. Add that in to a larger community, the numbers probably make perfect sense.

Which isn't to say Tapas shouldn't do stuff to better promote the little guys. I agree 100% that the fresh section should be on the front page. There could be a better balance of with the popular, premium, and fresh. ^^

[beta1042]

Yeah I kinda have to agree that Tapas is pretty dead. If I think back to my first post ever and compare it to my first post ever on Webtoon....

I recall having like 400-500 views after 24 hrs on webtoon, and about 40-50 subscribers.
On tapas I had I think 5 views and zero subs after 24hrs.

5 views v 500 is laughable.

Even now I barely get new views on tapas, I get mostly returning subscribers. And yeah maybe half my subscribers are from this forum XD.

After 6 months on tapas I still have less subscribers than I did after about 3 weeks on webtoons. So a lot of people on here like to bash Webtoons as a platform, but without webtoons I'd probably be super depressed about my progress.

[Anthien]

From what I seen, both sites have different preferences when it comes to the story they want to read. Short gag comics that update frequently tend to do well here. While on Webtoons, they prefer longer updates in a scrolling format. If you have nice colors, that's a plus. Also fresh comics on Tapas seems to get pushed down much quicker than Webtoons.

On a mobile perceptive, flipping through episodes is easier on Tapas so one page updates doesn't bother me as much. While on Webtoons, you have to either tap and press the arrow or go all the way to the bottom to get to the next episode, in which I would prefer that it's longer so I don't have to keep doing that.

Also, I feel like the Tapas audience is fairly polarized to reading BL or GL comics. You basically have a head start by putting those letters on your comic thumbnail. They often get a large following pretty quickly which gives them a better chance to be trending. Not that I have an issue with it, but it's quite noticeable when you look.

Your comic seems more suited for Webtoons imo. But it doesn't hurt to post here either. Goodluck!

[joannekwan]

Factors:

1. Webtoons has a readership 6 times larger than Tapas. (at least I think it was six. @GoldenPlume is more the numbers guy and can get your better stats)
2. You just started posting! It takes several months of consistent updates to see exactly if your comic is growing or not. I would give it a whole year since traffic fluctuates a lot depending on school systems.
3. And like others have said, you have 3x's the content posted on webtoons than here.

[onyisart]

True, but even with my first post on webtoons I had received WAY more than 8 views (120 to be exact). The only info I released about it was on my Youtube and I have 100 followers BUT, the video about my webcomic only got less than 20 views.

Looking at other first time comics here I've come to realize that even though Tapas and Webtoons offer practically the same services they are still different (doi Onyi), so I can't treat them the same.

I haven't posted here because I want to do things differently.

[onyisart]

Yeah I know I have 3 times more content. Webtoons is my priority so i post there first.
However, I was just disappointed that on my first post here it was 8 views but on webtoons it was about 120.

But you're right that webtoons has more readership. I've been doing my research on it. So i'm just gonna do things differently for Tapastic and see how the odds stack up.

[GoldenPlume]

can get your better stats

For the month of Feburary 2018, Webtoons was 6.06x larger than Tapas on desktop.

Mobile stats are much more difficult to extrapolate, but Naver Webtoons app is approximately 25 to 50x larger than the Tapas app.

To give you some perspective of size, Naver Webtoons (#156 most popular app in the world) app is slightly more popular than Pokemon GO (#172).

Webtoons throws millions of dollars annually at creators and advertising. Hence your series is going to be more popular there.

[daniellekoste]

I think all we're saying ,at least all I'm saying, is I don't really understand how you can be making comparisons and concluding that Tapas is so much worse, when the situations you're comparing are so different

[joannekwan]

Thanks! Can always count on you!

[daniellekoste]

Webtoons does not have a section for novels though, so in my book Tapas will always be superior ^^