Any posts that you don't like to see on the forums?

[VibrantFox]

I think sometimes having a thread where you can complain is good since it gives us all a space to rant or let out frustrations. I did want this to be a thing where people talk about stuff they don't want to see and things they do want to see but lots of people (including me) are complainers lol.

This is something I've said ages ago on the forums but what helps is balance and I think better wording for the title may have helped. Folks complaining about the usual is very common around here but something like "Post you dislike/Changes you want to see" would even things out immediately because there's now immediate expectation to give a kind of pros cons list or have at least some positives to contribute.

I agree venting is necessary it's something I like to be able to do if given the opportunity given it doesn't make me feel like a burden but especially in a public forum balance is and will be necessary. I wont deny forced positivity absolutely can be and is an issue here on the Tapas forums which is why I think a silver lining approach might work best. Lets people who wish to complain do so and those who want to give positive suggestions or ideas can.

(Also super sorry if this ran long I'm very much a follow the train of thought to the end kind of person)

[nathanKmcwilliams]

Nothing against you. I've just seen a lot of these over the years and I was mostly throwing in my two cents in the thread of things I don't like to see.

Which brings me to my other thing. If I don't like something then I try to counter it with something positive. I try to be a middle of the road person and understand where people come from, even if I don't agree.
Nothing wrong with venting, I just tend to do it with a closed circle of people, rather than an entire forum.
So I say, let the sub-4-subbers do their thing, it's really not hurting anyone. It's okay if people want to promote their work that their excited about. If I really don't want to see these things...I mute the category.

As for the Collab threads...any artist worth their salt will not bite, as much as it's annoying, it won't stop, because most of these posters drop their thread and dip out, they're likely doing it in a bunch of other places as well, so they'll have no regards for the rules whatsoever. So there's really no point in trying to make a system, because... they're not interested in the system. Easier just to mute the category.

@noenoh kinda nailed it on the head. It really is detrimental for newbies to see the gatekeeping, especially for younger people who're just making comics for fun, it sucks the fun right out of it.

So... that's just how I see things. We're all different people with different motives and views. I'm really not trying to dump on you here @sorible. Just expressing my viewpoint.

(While I was typing this out, @VibrantFox pretty much summed it up nicer than I did XD. The silver lining is something I always try to see.)

[sorible]

I think better wording for the title may have helped.

Agreed. That balance was exactly what I was trying to go for, but I was running on 0 sleep and got too lazy to change the title to "Any posts that you don't or want to see on the forums" or whatever.

I don't normally get to vent like this irl, usually I'm too worried of being a burden like you said, which is probably also why I made this.

[VibrantFox]

No worries and I can totally understand ^^ Things happen and i think what's useful is when folks can calmly communicate those kinds of things. Growing up in a house full of libras has kinda forced me to really understand the importance of balance but it's all good

[ar-ninetysix]

Y'all are starting to get somewhat positive here in my echo chamber smh stop that or I'll curse your families with only the mildest inconveniences in my arsenal

[_calm]

My guy I get what your trying to say but man there's somethings that just aren't true. Its easy to be a jerk on the forums but I don't think most people are jerks or overly negative. This platform aint easy to accumulate subscribers or even loyal readers so I think its good to help out people who are genuinely seeking it. And besides nice critique/ advice is much better than just ranting about their lack of insight or knowledge.

I personally though stay away from forums asking for feedback on plot and stuff and also forums that are basically sub for sub. Its just a waste of time and your'e better off first learning outside of the forums how to become a good writer/ artist then coming into the forums to ask for specifics.

[EncryptedWriting]

I paid my cover artist $900 USD; I paid my 'thank you' card artist $100 USD.

Im in awe at this. Like major props to you, my budget to commission my artist(s) for my book cover was not that high. XD

[VibrantFox]

i already had a pot break today man c'mon

[ar-ninetysix]

Ngl I misread that as you having a break and eating a pot brownie

[VibrantFox]

nah never consumed one and don't intent to

but the handle snapped off the thing :[

[TL_Nonoke]

Yeah...it was the top end of my budget...

[EncryptedWriting]

I just looked and they did a miraculous job. Worth every cent!

[TL_Nonoke]

Thank you! I thought so too!

[rajillustration]

So I say, let the sub-4-subbers do their thing, it's really not hurting anyone. It's okay if people want to promote their work that their excited about. If I really don't want to see these things...I mute the category.

I mean, I see what you're saying with making sure newbies don't feel bad, but we have been begging mods to shut these threads down for like the entire time I've been here. And, when mods started shutting them down, they kept popping back up. The aggressive over promotion is actually a very big problem that prevents people from staying on the forum, and we complain about it, so that way changes can be made that will hopefully be lasting.

Like when you're not a moderator and you don't have any power over what's happening around you, and you see a problem...complaining is how that gets attention so it gets addressed.

[nathanKmcwilliams]

Like when you're not a moderator and you don't have any power over what's happening around you, and you see a problem...complaining is how that gets attention so it gets addressed.

Only...peeps have complained for years now. Nothing has changed. Probably won't ever, because it would involve serious coding changes to the platform this forum uses. In my mind it's a useless endeavor.

[YS_og]

You completely misunderstood me. I meant what I said because to be honest I am GLAD these complaint/vent posts exist! How else could I be made more aware of certain things? I am a pretty oblivious person and things like these can be beneficial for slow people like me lol. It's like the post where people complained about what turns them completely off from a comic or a novel. I really got a lot of good info from that page as far as what people like or dont, or what to avoid doing. Just like here I got to see what I am glad I got away from doing!

[starry-sea]

all of them

doesn't elaborate

[Legendofgenii]

I did wonder what the heavy from TF2 was up to these days.

[Kuma]

Seeing any Unpaid/Revshare posts boils my blood.

People.

PAY.

YOUR.

ARTISTS.

[LadyOttoline]

I wish I knew how to improve my interactions with the forums. While I use it for promotion I also log on everyday looking for non-promotional threads to participate in. I somehow missed this thread for 4 whole days. I'd like to see more real conversations fight their way through the noise of self promotion.