Best Villains and Worst Heroes (MOVIES ONLY)

[CleverGoat]

From all the movies you have seen, who is the best villain and the worst hero? And what is your rating criteria?

[NickRowler]

Little Mermaid. King Triton is a horrible person. All these merfolk probably were probably mean to Ursula because she looked different and was a goth witch queen SLAY. She only cursed people because they were greedy. Ariel is an idiot and stalks a random human boy. Ursula did warn her about the curse but Ariel agreed anyways.

[IndigoShirtProd]

Oh, agree to disagree with your assessment of the Little mermaid. I don't even like that movie all that much but I'm willing to defend it. I will say though that yea, Ursula plays a good villain. She entertaining and bombastic, and knows how to get what she wants; all pretty endearing qualities if you're looking to like someone who's not a good person. Which she isn't.

King Triton is a horrible person.

There are worse people than King Triton. Ursula, for example.

All these merfolk probably were probably mean to Ursula because she looked different and was a goth witch queen SLAY.

Maybe but also like, she's not trustworthy... like at all. I can't blame them for ostracizing her.

Ariel is an idiot and stalks a random human boy.

To be fair to Ariel, she's a naïve, curious, and openminded 16 year-old who wants more for herself than the ocean. Her infatuation with prince Eric is understandable. And her "stalking" Eric led to her saving his life, so it's not even like it was wholly a bad thing.

Ursula did warn her about the curse but Ariel agreed anyways.

Yea but Ursula totally manipulated her. Like no doubt, intentional manipulation followed succinctly by intentional sabotage. Then she stole triton Trident and tried to killed them all.

Though I could be wrong about some thing, it's been a while since I watched the movie.

But undeniably so, she was a great villain, especially in comparison to her "heroic" (if they can even qualify as such) and lackluster counterparts.

[NickRowler]

I enjoyed it as a kid but disliked it when I rewatched it as an adult. King Triton is probably a lot worse than you remember. The music is still nice but I didn’t like the plot or the characters

[IndigoShirtProd]

Now that is something I can agree with. Of all the '90s disney classics, it's one of the weakest. Always thought it was kinda boring.

[authorvicomara]

Best villain: Die Hard, 1st movie.
Worst hero: Batman.

Rating criteria: that's a tough one to explain in short.

Probably something like this: how realistic, consistent, entertaining, etc. they are, and how well they harmonize with the scenes they are put in, i.e. whether those scenes+the character make sense put together and supplement each other.

[feuersichel]

Best villain: Megamind, because PRESENTATION!
Plus I just love how much character he has. Gosh that movie is so underrated.

Worst Hero: Mulan in the new movie. I mean, she is just born with her powers. There seems to be no real growth or struggle and no character developement.

[Fuzzyman818]

Best Villain: Cobra Commander from G.I. Joe Sigma 6 and G.I. Joe Resolute.
They are both far-cry's from what he was in the classic 80's series.

Worst Hero: Rey Skywalker from the recent Star Wars films.
She just has the Mary-Sue essence on her character.

[powerplantanimations]

WHOA! I almost promoted on this thread lmao!

Anyway, I guess I might as well answer :v

Best Villain:

I didn't want to put a supervillain since it would be too easy but like.... it's the truth at this point. His legacy is like on another wavelength. He was great in Batman 1966 (although I prefer Riddler due to the fact that he's legitimately intimidating), he was great in Batman 1989, he was great in the Animated shows, he was great in The Dark Knight, and he was great in Joker. We don't... we don't talk about Suicide Squad.

But yeah, the dude is the definition of the word villain. The fact mold him into any era and any atmosphere is just crazy.

Worst Hero:

I hate... everything about these guys.

I don't.... I don't feel like ranting. I just... I don't.... like these guys.

And I don't like the director. I can't believe I find her more annoying than Joss friggin' Whedon, the sex offender. I just..... don't support Eternals people. Bad movie overall lmao.

[allenT]

Louis Bloom from Nightcrawler, a villain but also a hero.

rating criteria. A person who seems to have a noble cause but is a monster to audience.

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