Challenge: A thread for training in disagreement

[Mira_Astralis]

but octopuses are big. And they live in the Ocean realm, not the Land realm which is where a heck ton of humans are, so they don't disturb us. they are confined to their waters.

Centipedes on the other hand are totally fine to be scared of (i am)

but spiders' leg-size-to-body-size ratio is a lot bigger than centipedes. whereas a centipede's legs are a little thing that you can barely see that propel the thing forward, spiders' legs can be longer than the body itself.

It's like comparing a human to a human in a mecha suit. You can't just do that.

[ar-ninetysix]

Regarding pineapple on pizza, I actually don't mind it which is weird bc I don't like pineapple on its own. Is that a hot take???

[Mira_Astralis]

not-quite-related, but I feel like earning a like on here is now of a higher reward then it is in other places, does anyone disagree?

[ar-ninetysix]

I'm just gonna agree as someone who's gotten badges on here for getting likes. And I got the most likes by using gifs as replies bc I'm relatable and quirky

[IndigoShirtProd]

I think it's just because there aren't as many people in the forum. Also because on the post you like, you can see who liked it, which is similar for instagram but here other people can see which post you like too. It's more about agreeing with a statement than liking a picture. You can be more considerate of what you choose to like since you'd have to read the full post, which can be several paragraph long as a opposed to be 280 characters or less.

[Mira_Astralis]

XD, yea that makes sense. But what I was saying was more of a:

Is getting likes on the Thread for Disagreement thread making you feel somewhat more accomplished than it would feel on another thread, like, because we 'arent allowed' to talk about 'aggreements', does the heart somehow mean that you've gotten someone to aggree with you? I'm probably reading too much into this haha.

[ar-ninetysix]

Ah. Well, I'm dumb and I didn't read the full thing. Agreements are forbidden, give a like for agreeing or agree somewhere else. Guess I'm kicked out lol

[nathanKmcwilliams]

I actually love spiders. I think they're amazing creatures and are the pinnacle of predatory arthropods. Though I don't go out of my way to pick them up, I'm not scared of them.

[Mira_Astralis]

ooooh. Persuade me. Why do you like them so much?

[33rdCenturyCaveman]

Because the big wolf spiders look like skinny little monkey hands zipping in and out of the shadows. Can catch and eat full-blown cockroaches.

[nathanKmcwilliams]

Well...first off, they're really fun to watch when they hunt. There's a wide variety of types, but my favorites are wolf spiders. They don't wait around in a web for their prey. They chase it down.
Also I love the grouping of their eyes. Two big ones on the side, and six smaller ones bundled in between in an organized stack. When light flashes on them, they glow, and since the wolf spider is a nocturnal predator, sometimes you can see their tiny eyes in the yard when a light is shined on them.

Plus 8 is my favorite number, and since Spiders are arachnids, they've got eight legs. (Not counting the pedipalps, which are modified chelicerae, aka mouthparts.)

[Mira_Astralis]

but don't they give off a menacing vibe? like, big or not, I know that if I was small enough it wouldn't give a second thought to eating me...

[nathanKmcwilliams]

I suppose that part is in the eyes of the beholder. I see it as a beautiful and necessary part of nature. Having wolf spiders is kind of a good thing, since they regulate pest insects.

[33rdCenturyCaveman]

Cats be thinking the same thing. "This one would definitely eat you if this one could."

[nathanKmcwilliams]

I will add that spiders don't really have the capability to 'think' it's more of 'react.' Even wolf spiders eye-sight isn't so good to be able to judge that kind of difference between human and food source. It's kind of, if something crosses their path while they hunt and it's within size range...then they pounce and envenomate with their fangs.

[33rdCenturyCaveman]

E N V E N O M A T E

[unknown_user]

Since this is apparently a space specifically for contention, can I challenge the entire premise of this thread? ^^

No prob.

Most of the people who will respond don't actually need this kind of practice, and those who do need it either won't be here or will probably just ignore the rules once they feel strongly enough about something. =/

Disagree.
The idea of this topic was to turn the concept of conformity inside out and see, what will happen. The thing is: conformity "instinct" gives us inclement toward agreement with the given rules. But what if the rules themselves encourage disagreement? In this case conformity "instinct" should encourage people to follow the rules... which will discourage conformity "instinct".

So, the plan of the training is:

1. The effect, described above, should make it a bit easier for people to disagree here, than in another places.
2. After doing it, people will get some amount of positive reinforcement toward disagreement, because they'll see that nothing horrible will happen.
3. Maybe after getting such reinforcement it'll be easier for them/me to feel more free in general and make the same more often outside of this topic.

Will conformity habit eat itself like Uroborous? Well, of course, that not entirely, it's too strong. But maybe it will at least bite it's own tale a bit.

[NickRowler]

Smartphones made 8 years ago still work perfectly fine. The constant social pressure to upgrade phones is wasteful and nothing more than mindless consumerism.

[33rdCenturyCaveman]

Me disagree because of expanding role of smartphones. With something like a smartphone laptop dock, a new or new-ish phone can serve as perfectly-adequate office machine. That less viable with older devices.

[unknown_user]

But many people don't use such advanced features. So for them, it's no sense to overpay for it.