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Apr 2017

Hey, so first off I'm an old fart and therefore this doesn't apply to me personally, but it does apply to people I know:

Ability to Accept Terms of Service

You affirm that you are 18 years of age or older, and competent to enter into the terms, conditions, obligations, affirmations, representations, and warranties set forth in these Terms of Service, and to abide by and comply with these Terms of Service.

In any case, you affirm that you are 18 or older, as the Service is not intended for people under 18. If you are under 18 years of age, then please do not use the Service. There are tons of other fantastic websites for you.

From ToS: https://help.tapas.io/hc/en-us/articles/11500554524821

Uhhhhhhhhhhh......so are ya'll saying that people can only use the site if they're 18+? I can understand this for ad revenue and such, but what about people not in the revenue programs? What about readers? @michaelson @STAFF

(Also this thread is open to any other problems people have about the ToS, this is just the one I know of. I'm thinking this is just a poorly-worded whoops and not intentional)

Edit: Aaaaaaaaaaaand it appears to be fixed! Show's over, go home everyone. http://forums.tapastic.com/t/concerns-about-terms-of-service/17766/1455

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also that kind of makes the mature content warning kind of obsolete now doesn't it?

Does it mean both the App and the Desktop version of Tapastic/Tapas is now de facto rated 18+?
I'm a bit confused. The new font on the Desktop is so rounded and childish, but now everything is for adults??

If this is a case, a lot of people will have to deactivate their accounts - and I believe teens under the age of 18 make up a rather substancial audience when it comes to webcomics. Doesn't feel very nice to just tell them to gtfo like that

Haha, nah, it was someone on the StArt Faire Discord chat who caught it. I'm pretty confident this is just a goof because WOW that's gonna be a significant chunk of their user base.

I can kind of see why this was necessary, but man... please make a detailed site wide announcement soon. I know every ToS says they can change the rules whenever the management wants to, without notification, but just because you can doesn't mean you should. Please communicate with us!

also the new guidelines apparently people can't have announcement episodes anymore? loool
guess i can't post my hiatus page

I really hope this was just a big blooper, because a lot of people I know on Tap are under 18, and since a lot of teens under 18 make up a big chunk of the site, it would hit the place rather hard (like a meteor impact) if they all had to deactivate all because they're "too young".

I'm in the same boat. It's their site, their rules, but it conflicts a lot with the announcement of the ToS updating:

"Finally, we want Tapas to remain the fun, friendly, and safe place for all creators and readers you've helped us build over the years. "

And definitely, definitely want to be kept informed! This is a huge change that many people need to know about. Many young creators are on this site who would otherwise need to move. While it's their choice to make, a heads up this was going to happen would have been nice.

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I think it was an oopsie cause they changed it now ovo;;

Hello everyone,

Apologies for the typo.

The terms and services were meant to reflect two different sets of ages. 13 years and older for our general user agreement, and 18 years and older for our revenue related programs.

Unfortunately, during the process of writing these agreements out, both sections were listed as 18 years or older. It has since been changed to reflect the original user agreement ages.

We've made a site-wide announcement during the initial roll out of the site, which should appear for all of you in the form of a yellow ribbon. We'll be making an additional announcement in the form of a site wide notification that links to our Medium post that directs you to the our updated terms and policies.

Again, I apologize for the confusion.

yeah if that's the case, i'm reaching into my porn folder right now and uploading all the gay time gate shit i've drawn over the years

. . . i'm not joking, i literally have a secret folder where i've got drawings and comic strips of mitsuhiro just PLOWING into male individuals, "mitsuhiro is gay" headcanon exists for a very good reason lol and as it just so happens, i have a secret passion for drawing penises lol

EDIT: just saw michael's reply, siiiiiiigh i'll get my penises in some day :<

I would appreciate less unsolicited opinion in the content guidelines, if I'm being honest.

So there are "plenty" of sites out there to upload uncensored comics with explicit content? Mind sharing some URLs? Because I know of exactly two, and one of those isn't even an actual comic host, it's just customizable for that purpose.

It's fine to have your guidelines, but this claim just attempts to reinforce to readers that it's fine, there are positively scads of them out there! That's not the case, and creators who incorporate adult-oriented material are most often treated very poorly and limited in opportunity. It's so bad that most of us have developed a way of life that requires us to be ready for being screwed over by whatever host we go with, regardless of their terms and agreements at the time.

I often wish there were plenty of sites out there for us to express ourselves creatively and artistically, without worry about censorship or someone clutching their pearls because of a sex scene. But this sort of language in an official site policy document misleads, which I don't think was the intention. I think it would be best removed, since it also adds nothing to the overall document, nor does it introduce a point of agreement.