mate I don't wanna hear anymore "in venezuela" because it's just starting to sound like an excuse. It's like saying "I am from [insert third world country here] so I should get a pass for agreeing with child labor"
No, what I mean is he uses the word "rape" like it's just an edgier way to say "destroy" or "hurt".
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Manson was charged with "sexual misconduct" on August 16, 2001 after Joshua Keasler filed a complaint that as he was providing security for a July 30 concert Manson had allegedly spat on his head, wrapped his legs around him and began to gyrate his penis along his neck. Oakland County prosecutor David Gorcyca said that "It was offensive, crude and rude. This was not something that was orchestrated or choreographed as part of the act. The security guard was an unknowing and unwilling participant and, ironically, while he was there for protection... was sexually assaulted." The charge, punishable with up to two years imprisonment, was accompanied with a charge of disorderly conduct. The complaint came with an arrest warrant but Manson thwarted this by posting a $25,000 personal bond. In a one-day December 28, 2001 trial the presiding Judge dismissed the charge of "sexual misconduct" as Manson had in his view "gained no sexual gratification from the act." Manson pleaded "no contest" to the outstanding lesser charge, which carried only up to three months imprisonment, and was ordered to pay $4,000 in fines. After the trial Keasler pursued a civil lawsuit against Manson that was dropped when the two settled out of court in February 2002.
On August 2, 2007, Gacy filed a lawsuit against Marilyn Manson seeking a back pay of $20 million dollars. Gacy claimed Manson has been using the band's money for personal interests, among which are a child's skeleton, masks made of human skin, stuffed animals such as a grizzly bear and two baboons, a collection of Nazi memorabilia, his drug addictions, his wedding with Dita Von Teese and the production of Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll.
On April 3, 2002 Maria St. John filed in Los Angeles Superior Court accusing Manson of providing her adult daughter, Jennifer Syme, with cocaine and instructing her to drive while under the influence. The case was settled out of court.
There's also several live recordings out there where he throws objects at his own bandmembers out of dumb rage, such as his microphone and the microphone stand.
There's many songs and videos he has made involving abusive relationships, which could be a deep dark depiction of a real topic but when he does it, it just isn't. It's nothing but a distasteful attempt to be edgy. I think I would be able to overlook a lot of his private behaviors much more if it wasn't for that the music he writes clearly mirrors just what a dick he is. Some of the songs are still good, and I do enjoy them. But in many tracks the assholeness just seeps through.
Besides this, when I was 14 I was a member of the OFFICIAL Marilyn Manson forum boards, which were managed horribly to say the least. Loads of toxicity, I saw a teenager do cocaine on cam in their chatroom, a 28 year old once came in there bragging about random shit he had stolen and also tried to get me (as I said I was very much underage) to show my tits. People around there called me jailbait. I met a guy on there who would end up manipulating me for 4 years straight, out of which he sexually harrassed and abused me for 3 years. They also had a few neo nazi members that for some suspicious reason kept getting way more extra chances than any other member got with even the most obvious displays of misbehavior and breaking of forum rules. Towards the end of the, once again OFFICIAL, forum boards' existence some random moderator suddenly banned a couple handfuls of members in one go without providing any explanation. I was one of those that got banned. The nazis who posted comments about how bullying people to suicide is nature's way of sorting out the worthless people, attacking members directly, and making threads comparing specific members to literal shit with pictures to illustrate what type of poop each member was WERE NOT BANNED.
So yeah I have gone from being a fan to having quite the distaste mainly for his fanbase but to some extent also the man himself. I usually change my opinion of a person if they show signs of improvement but this guy is kind of still an asshole.
There are better alternative creators out there with much more positive fanbases and messages. Take Serj Tankian for example. Guy has matured well and aged gracefully.