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Apr 2021

Hello I was recently contacted by Toomics who were interested in working with me \ publishing my work, it is a very great honor and I am very happy!

Nevertheless I wanted to know if certain people had already worked with them and how it was going to go concretely?
What is the royalty percentage for creator-owned comics?( i'm sorry i'm very new and young about these things)
As a non-American person will I be affiliated with Toomics or will I be "independent"?

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I've never heard of Toomics, but here are some things to consider before signing any contract regarding your work being published:

  • Are they taking exclusive online publishing rights, or can you still publish elsewhere? If they want exclusivity, how are they going to help you with your marketing? (Eg. WEBTOON and Tapas take exclusivity for online publishing of their originals/paid series, but they market your work for you, frequently, on their high-traffic apps and front pages.)
  • How much are they paying you per episode? If it's just ad/view revenue, and they want exclusivity, and they don't have an audience at least as big as Tapas, that's not a good deal.
  • Are they claiming a stake in your IP? I do not recommend giving over any percentage of your IP to an entity with more money and power than you. Even a tiny percentage. Look up what happened with TokyoPop for a real-world example as to why.

Be extremely firm in negotiations. A lot of companies rely on the excitement and naïveté of early-career creatives in order to trap them in unbalanced, poorly-compensated, and sometimes predatory contracts. My line in the sand is IP rights. Know your own lines in the sand, and make them clear in negotiations. They're the publisher. They should be competing for your comic, not the other way around. You can be successful with or without them.

Hi Kaydreamer
i didn't knew them either before they reach to me after seing my content on tapas ^^
Thankyuu very much for your answer i'm got zero experience when it comes to theses things !

Lmao Idon't think anybody would compete for my comics X) but still thankyuu i'll be sure to be careful and to ask those !

Toomics reached out to me too, but it seemed like they'd never read my comic before -- asked me whether I could finish a chapter a week (and I do 40-page chapters).
They wanted to publish my comics with a 40-60 split in profits (40% going to them). The outreach person was very nice but I had to tell her no...

Thankyuu you are exactly what the kind of person i m looking for !
for now they asked me if i was interested in publishing some of my titles with them with 50 -50 royalties ( i don't know what that means ?) with non exclusive contract of 3 years ...
How did you knew they never read your comics ?

40 pages a weeks ?! for that amount of work did they propose to you any help or something ?

PS : sorry i have so many questions , thankyuu for your answer^^

No help was offered at all, and the outreach person seemed quite adamant that it had to be a weekly schedule. If they'd properly read my comic (40 coloured pages a chapter!) I doubt they'd have proposed those terms to me.

Non-exclusive contract likely means that you'll be free to share your comics on other platforms. I have a non-exclusive contract with Tapas right now for Early Access :slight_smile:

As someone who draws as a hobby, and a stable source of income from my day job, I said no to Toomics pretty quickly. However if you're interested in the partnership you might want to clarify with the outreach person where the royalties will be coming from, and how many panels they expect a week (as reference, my friend from webtoons gets around 500USD for 40-60 panels every week).

Who knows, they might be good people to work with! Their requirements just didn't fit with my plans.

Looking at some of the comments, I wonder if Toomics is a scam like all the novelstar comments going around. What ever you decide to do, do your research!

yeah, that make sense ! ( i did you look up your series , you artsly is very pleasing to the eyes :blush:)

I will ! Thankyuu very much for your all answers ! Escente !
without being indiscreet, then I ask you how many people follow your friend's webtoon? ( so i that i can more or less see how many sub it would take on webtoon)

a scam ?! what did you read ?
I do think their site was legit and all ^^ ( they contacted me via instagram with their official account )

No problem at all! My friend is a Webtoon Originals creator and they have 300+K followers right now. They had far fewer followers on Canvas when they got picked up by the webtoons editorial team, I don't know the exact number...

I did a quick Twitter search about Toomics last week and didn't find many artists who work with them. While it's good to be open-minded you should be cautious too.

Thankyuu i'm feel like i'm little less lost now and i knew what to do you , alright i will be extra cautious !:slight_smile:

Let me clarify. I haven't read anything about Toomics. Webtoons and Tapas are the only mainstream webtoon platforms I've heard of in the States. In my book, I call anything a "scam" that feels too good to be true, isn't confirmable, and tries to lure you in with promises of fast cash.

Novelstar is a real app but they've been spamming writers on various platforms trying to drum up readers for their platform. Toomics might very well be legit and a great opportunity. I would just exercise a healthy bit of caution when it comes to them and if the offer gets into the contract-stage, have a lawyer review it before you sign. You don't want to loose the rights to your work and/or get paid pennies for it because of a technicality.

I didn't even knew some platform were doing that !
yeas, i will engage a lawyer before signing aything , thankyuu very much for your answer !

11 days later

Wish I saw this convo earlier... XD

I was approached too. I know they go with the standards of South Korean manhwa webtoon (that has weekly episode of 40-60 panels range). Got a lawyer read the contracts and it's a non-exclusive so I can still post on Patreon or make partnerships with other platforms. And since I DO want to finish my comics faster and work on it full time... I decided this lines up with what I aim for and the worst case scenario is just me kicked out of the contract. They don't own my IP. As long as you're confident you can fulfil the set expectations and deadlines (and if you think this is right for you) I think it's a good thing to consider it.

Toomics isn't a scam. They are honest about not giving you any sort of MG since you're not exclusive and sharing sales royalties. Doesn't seem a good deal at first, but they are being honest about it. XD

If it helps, a person I know just finished her indie series and decided to publish there to get an extra dosh and keep the series alive somehow (we know that in webtoons/tapas if a series isnt being updated it falls into oblivion). She is happy, but not expecting anything extraordinary. Hope it helps! :slight_smile:

Good to know someone who already took it and was satisfied with it. =)))

I personally don't go for the money... more the motivation to finish the series in a timely deadline (otherwise I'm slow... I thrive on deadlines). I make enough off Patreon to support my current life and having this as an addition won't make me lose out much. Since the contract is non-exclusive it's a plus already for me. XD

I can't see why you wouldn't accept, then! ^^ Since you know they are legit and has nothing to lose, go for it! You can even get some extra bucks!

4 months later

They contacted me 2 days ago, and I really dunno what to do​:joy::joy:

Toomics is a legit Korean company but not as big as Webtoon, Lehzin, etc.

I was contacted by Toomics before, for a non-exclusive contract, but I turned it down because they required a 3-year minimum and I didn't plan my current story to be that long.