Starts around early October around here in the South East US. Thanksgiving isn't really mentioned as much around here as much as Black Friday. It hits full swing around Halloween day. It's all about commercialism and in my area with a metric ton of lower class people who blow all their paychecks on Christmas, it just adds insult to injury. To be honest TV's also a living hell this time of year as well, seeing as everyone plays the same damn Christmas special and then you're forced to watch Lifetime or Hallmark Christmas movies with the family but that's neither here nor there.