INK Concerns (with MATH!)

[jensrichard77]

Im so sorry if I totally have misunderstood everything.

But I still read this as
Person A buying Ink from App you shall pay 30% in taxation.

Person A buying In from Web you shall pay 15% in taxation.

Person A earning free ink from ads you shall not pay taxation.

THEN

If person A is giving you the Ink in support Tapas takes a fee of 15% of your amount

[jensrichard77]

Here is my math

If a reader support me with an ink value of 100$
All the ink is form app purchases with a 30% Taxation
Then I have a value of 70$.
Tapas takes the share at 15%
Then I have 59,50$

[colinmooredraws]

No. Those fees come after. How many ways can I say it?

BUY >> GIVE >> FEES

I am talking about just buy>>give.

[keii4ii]

I think it would be helpful to get a staff answer for:

"If I make a $100 ink purchase on the app and give it all to one creator, how much do they actually get when they cash out?"

I understand the answer is not a simple "$[insert value]" because it depends on stuff like where the creator is located? Still, there's so much misunderstanding surrounding this process.

[jensrichard77]

I must be so dumb?

I’m reading all of this in a different way than you do.

Can we have another player to clear this for me and help @colinmooredraws with this concern?

(sorry but I too try to figure this out too)

[colinmooredraws]

I think it would be helpful to get a staff answer for:

"If I make a $100 ink purchase on the app and give it all to one creator, how much do they actually get when they cash out?"

That isn't what I'm asking, though. It's "If I buy $100 in Ink and give it to an artist, how much will it show before fees are taken out?"

Can we have another player to clear this for me and help @colinmooredraws with this concern?

It's my question! I've said it several times. You keep trying to make it something different and don't want to consider a different option that what you've decided on.

[keii4ii]

It's "If I buy $100 in Ink and give it to an artist, how much will it show before fees are taken out?"

I think answering my question in detail (like, step by step, at which point which fee is taken out, at which point is the subtotal displayed in revenue vs available, etc) should answer that one?

EDIT: Thing is, I think "fees are taken out" is not a single step. There's at least two steps involved.

[colinmooredraws]

Why are you changing my question? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT AFTER FEES! THIS ISN'T ABOUT CASHING OUT!

This is about the value of Ink while it is STILL IN THE SYSTEM. I buy ink. I give Ink. Is it still valued the same? No fees involved at this stage.

[nostalgicroxas]

Supposedly there's no fees taken out when Buyer purchases ink? Or is that not right, because likely the money has to go through some Third Party service, so some fee should apply to process it.

[jensrichard77]

You keep trying to make it something different and don't want to consider a different option that what you've decided on.

I’m sorry. But the two taxations fee App at 30% and Web at 15% is confusing me. Where do they fit in before/after the Tapas fee at 15%

[colinmooredraws]

I’m sorry. But the two taxations fee App at 30% and Web at 15% is confusing me. Where do they fit in before/after the Tapas fee at 15%

THIS IS ABOUT BEFORE FEES ARE INVOLVED STOP TALKING ABOUT FEES

[jensrichard77]

OKAY THEN
I go and make a new debate about taxations then.
Because it has nothing to do with the Ink you buy.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[colinmooredraws]

Supposedly there's no fees taken out when Buyer purchases ink? Or is that not right, because likely the money has to go through some Third Party service, so some fee should apply to process it.

That's part of what I'm trying to figure out. No matter what, when you buy stuff it's a flat rate and you aren't charged any fees. And typically companies like this will instead pay credit card processors based on their plans, which is probably part of what the Tapas fees are on the other end. But that is typically considered the cost of doing business.

My concern here is that Ink seems to drastically change value when it changes hands, before any fees are applied.

[jensrichard77]

Okay so I’m not here to rant or start a war.

I have surfed the forum and it seems this debate is the same year after year.

The misunderstanding might be that some believe that the App/Web fee is paid before you receive your value of the ink.

Your received amount might already have been altered depending where it came from.

Then you pay the Tapas share fee.

Therefor. Answering you concern depends on.
Are the taxation fee paid before you even receive your amount?

[colinmooredraws]

According to screenshots YOU, YOURSELF, SHARED those fees come out AFTER the creator receives the Ink. Not before.

In case you need a reminder:

Which appears here in context:

[jensrichard77]

Okay. Thank you.
My bad then.

[colinmooredraws]

In case that wasn't clear.

Yours came from the pink arrow. I'm talking about the green.

Amount - Fees = Your Share

I AM TALKING ABOUT "AMOUNT."

[Penni]

Maybe it's a good idea to wait and get an explanation from Michael or another staff member? There seems to be a lot of confusion that could be resolved if it came straight from the source.

[jensrichard77]

Ya... Can we start this thing over because i feel bad now that I have destroying the original question with all my confusing.

Sorry

[colinmooredraws]

I was content to wait, but I doubt I will get an answer now that people have muddied the waters with their own interpretation of what I'm trying to figure out.