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For me. This feels like an extension of this forum out in the masse SoMe where other than just us can get a chance to follow what we are doing as a community. I guess that this is a way for Tapas to promote the community, not specific series, but as a whole.
Anyway I love this

I'm really confused what this is supposed to be - or maybe not? But correct me if I'm wrong here. It's supposed to be:

  1. A newsletter about the most important news for creators (contests, opportunities, etc.)
  2. A SoMe platform to feature community creators.

Isn't this... What we already have with the official Tapas profiles? Does this mean community creators won't be featured on those? Aren't we already getting news from the official Tapas profile and here on the forums and through push notifications?

And how do you define a "community series"? Is this a series made by someone who is a user on Tapas and not a series Tapas has bought and translated from another source? Or, is it a community created series by several users organised by Tapas?

Sorry for the wall of questions, but I'm really confused :sweat_smile:

This sounds like fun. Where can I sign up?

I'm not on the Tapastry team but I was watching it develop for a while on the sidelines. I'll try to clarify from my understanding.

The Tapas community is everyone who posts a comic or on their own. Until now we didn't have collective name that we liked for this community. Now we do.

So now we can focus exclusively on Community events that are separate from Tapas-wide events. Hence the Tapastry specific social media.

This is only the first step of many this year in Tapas's plans for rolling out a lot of stuff for community creators.

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A community series is anything that an individual user creates and posts that isn't in official partnership with Tapas. So no this isn't about more exposure for Premium titles, but rather home-grown content.

Hope this helps rather than confuses further xD

Until your reply, I admit I was pretty confused on what Tapastry was supposed to be, so I really appreciate your comment!

So basically... Webtoons has Originals and Canvas. Tapastry is to Tapas what Canvas is to Webtoons? Is that the basic idea?

Oh golly... here we go again. Another attempt at trying to do something for the community only to pull the plug several months later when Mr. C changes his mind yet again and the related staff are reassigned/dismissed/resign.

I wish all those involved the best, but seen this song and dance before.

The fundamental issue at Tapas is that management doesn't really have their heart set in supporting us because the community cannot be directly converted into top line revenue. Management says one thing but their historical actions/decisions proves otherwise.

Please, don't embark on this journey unless someone with final authority other than Mr. C is actually committed to it for the long haul. Otherwise what ends up happening is you launch something new, get the community excited, then drop it several months later. Ultimately all this does is damage Tapas for everyone.

Well??? Let's just enjoy the ride as long as possible!

I don't know who Mr. C is but I think it's fair to be very excited about this. With Tapas finally breaking big in a way it never seems to have before, I think Tapastry has the chance to really unite the community in a way that I guess hasn't been done before (although I was not active on the site's community side until last year so I can't speak for that).

@GoldenPlume

I'm terribly sorry you've had such a negative impression. Tapas has heavily invested into our community and has built a strong team focused fully on independent community creators, including marketing and monetization possibilities. While I can't make promises on what the future will hold (who can, really), the financial and personnel investment has been substantial, especially in 2020.

There are many things in the works, but we are continuously ramping up and making progress, with a public facing brand being one of the first outwardly visible steps. It's not a requirement to be excited and it's understandable to be hesitant, but don't feel like we're doing this to drop the project in a few months. That would be very stupid of us and a huge waste of time and resources.

Thank you for the response ratique. Some time ago I served as a community volunteer and unfortunately most of what we tried to do went sideways or was blocked. There was a lot of waste and it was very disheartening. But this thread isn't going to be about that. Hopefully things have changed for the better and I wish you guys the best.

However it seems only fair that creators go into this with some historical context so they can make a more informed decision about how much they want to participate and invest of themselves. I'd recommend creators consider only investing time/resources into Tapastry that they are willing to lose because nothing much may come of it. Hopefully though things have changed and the community will finally receive the proper support and attention they deserve.

I'm still a little concerned about the lack of clarification on my question. Did it just get buried?

I asked if the intention is to promote "community creators", which we've now clarified means "free to read creators not in a partnership with Tapas" only on the same social media channels where these creator memes and resources are being posted.
The reason being that if we're only being promoted on that channel, while it's better than not being promoted at all, we're only getting exposure on a channel where other creators are the intended audience (ie. the account has only been promoted to creators and anyone who visits, seeing the meme templates will assume it's a creator-focused account), giving us extremely limited visibility compared to the audience-facing social media.

I worry that if that were the case, it would only exacerbate the current issues we have with community creators feeling like we're "sidelined" in favour of premium comics, especially when lately such a large proportion of the new premium comics, and certainly the ones that seem to have had the biggest advertising push, have been bought and translated. Even some premium creators I've talked to lately feel like they're getting buried under these new acquisitions and under-promoted.

I would really like to see a channel that was about Tapas community works, but audience-facing, not creator-facing. There are 60,000 creators on Tapas, but there are three million readers. In other words, creators make up just two percent of the Tapas audience! As we often say on the UK manga scene "it's not an economy if everyone's making and selling each other coffee".

As I see it, Tapas is investing and hiring people to run a big SoMe show and asking us to tag along.

I trust Tapas knows how to bring back the investment. And I think that Tapas knows the real money lays with the readers.

But for now, we wait and play some template games.

I don't know what this means, but at the end of the day, I doubt it will affect the low views/sub my comic has, so I just see this Tapestry, as another tapas event that I'm neutral and my series won't benefit from it.

On the Tapas side, no changes will be made - the community series featured on home page and social media will continued to be featured as is. Tapastry is an additional channel that allows us share even more, although it is only part of our focus, as we run events and share news specifically for creators.

We continue to work with the marketing team in the background to feature community series to the wider reader audience. Tapastry has no influence into that part and may even make some of that work easier for us.