I wanted to ask if any of you actually really liked or appreciated the "Thanks for subbing" Thing that so many people do. Do you feel you are more loyal to a comic that posts such an image on your wall, or do you really not care? I'm curious.
Feb '17
Nov '17
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I for one like seeing them on my wall, and sometimes you get really good ones that I may or may not save in a folder.
People kept posting those on my page, so I made a gif to send people when they subscribed to me 
Too bad not many people subscribe to me ; (
I enjoy them. I think it begins to develop a relationship with readers. And, I think it's become noteworthy when one doesn't post a "thanks" pic. I think it says something about the investment, or lack thereof, from the artist as it's fairly common now.
Well I dunno bout that, some creators get a sudden burst of subs or have a bunch that they really can't go to everyone's wall to post something.
I know when I started posting (almost 2 years ago now) that I didn't even know thank you pics were a thing. And when I started considering making my own, well, I'd gotten past a couple hundred subs.
I post thank you pictures on the walls of my subscribers as a simple way of thanking them (duh), but I also have short gifs for the loyal subscribers.
As for receiving thank you pictures, I don't mind and it's a good way to start a chat with creators.
too me it shows that the creator really cares about you if they put the effort into making a seperate picture and posting it on your wall, and plus i like to see these pictures because they are heart warming.
The data tells the story, though, not one's personal experience. Take a random sample. I think you'll find that the distribution is skewed towards those who post "thanks" pics.
I resent the fact that you seem to be saying that people who don't do it are somehow less invested in their comic or less appreciative of their fans. That's bullshit, especially for adult creators with full time jobs and other obligations. Producing the comic itself--the actual content--takes top priority, and the rest is just extra. I simply don't have the time to produce a thank you image and post it to every single wall of my 900 subscribers, even if they accumulate slowly.
It's a lovely gesture, but don't judge the lack of it. The energy and time I put into the comic is proof enough of how much it means to me and my continuation of it is the biggest thank you to my fans that I can ever give.
You do realize you're speaking to a 42 year old man with a full time job, a disabled wife and son, who also creates a webcomic in his spare time, right? If you don't like what your actions say about you, change. Don't attack others simply for reading the writing on the wall aloud for you.
i like seeing them and i want to make one myself that is better than just a quick doodle. i don't particularly notice when people post or don't post thank you for sub art, some people are busier than others.
Do you have data for this? Just asking, honestly.
I looked through my wall at all the past thank you pics I've gotten and about half have fallen into hiatus and have stopped updating and only a few of the others (not counting the ones that got staff picked or have easy market themes like mlm) barely break 1k subs.
I like getting them!! It's like collecting flair back in the super early facebook days. I don't really notice if an artist doesn't post them -- plenty still don't -- but I do enjoy them and think they're fun from artists who give them out!! :>
I do think it's good etiquette to make sure your thank-you isn't super vertically tall, though, since that can take up a lot of wall-space!
I've also found that there are some readers who normally wouldn't say anything that take thank-yous as an opportunity to comment on the comic or interact with the creator. One guy told me he'd been trying to work up the courage to ask me about a particular element of my comic, and when I left the thank-you he felt like that was a good chance to ask. For some, it's a way to make you feel more approachable, which I really like! (I'm very behind on my list right now, though I kind of like the idea of giving people time to read through and change their minds beforehand, haha!)
There's a few other threads about this if you want to get a general consensus (here's one2, here's one1, here's another1). I read through a lot of them when deciding whether or not to make a thank-you myself, and was surprised to find the reception was overall really positive!! A couple folks expressed frustration with how Tapastic handles wall posts, which I can understand, so I always check every person's profile description to make sure there's not a note that they'd rather get those in a private message. ;u;
@digitalvalium1 It doesn't really matter who does or doesn't have time (tho once you get into the hundreds or thousands of subs, it eats up more time than you might expect!). The important part is that majority of folks here don't see it as a bad thing when artists don't post thank-yous. If you personally see it that way, that's up to you! But the idea that it gives that impression to most readers just isn't demonstrably true. A lot of readers (especially mobile folks) don't even know that they have a wall, and the majority of readers don't comment on thank-yous; just a few people do.
To most people here, it's a nice thing, but not a necessary thing. ;u; Every time anyone has asked "is it rude to not give these out?" on the forums, folks here have always assured them that it's perfectly fine to not join in; it's just a fun thing if you want to do it, and can be a cool way to for others to encounter your comic!
I don't really care, it's nice that they do, but I'm mostly subscribed to read their work more than wanting some form of attention.
I like to get them. They make me feel appreciated, and there's a chance that the creator would check my work and suscribe too.
So... despite your current situation, and the struggles I'm sure you face by keeping that schedule, you don't have empathy for people who aren't able to make a thank you image for a webcomic due to their own life obligations? Seems like something rather trite to be judgmental about. It's one thing to hold yourself to that standard, but to impose it on other people or think less of them for not doing it is pretty bad.
The thing I find most hilarious about all this is that you have no wiggle room in your opinion, you mention data as a form of objective proof, and when asked about said data you dodge the question and say "do it yourself"! Sorry, but you can't use your opinion as fact unless you back it up, and for that you need a source or to have collected concrete data yourself--and it has to be provided by you because you made the statement in the first place.
I'd recommend opening your mind a little to other possibilities but from your current replies I don't see that happening. Oh well. ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
I'm over 30 pages behind on thanking people for the sub because I got a feature and got a ton of subs over night... I've tried to tackle it, but holy shit dude, it takes time. Time that I could be using spending on my comic that I'm kind of behind on right now.
And the sub count I got over night wasn't even that big to what other people have gotten... I know people that get over 5k (or more) subs in just a week or two. I know one person in particular who was an over night hit, and she's the sweetest thing ever and VERY appreciative to her fan base, but... She doesn't exactly have the hours to thank the 5k+ people she got in the span of a week or two...
First of all, my judgement is clearly an opinion, as noted by the phrase, "I think" that you'll note I used. Secondly, you're never going to believe a word I say, no matter what evidence I provide., whether graphed, or scatter plot, or pie chart with pretty colors. It's called confirmation bias. Your core beliefs are being questioned. The best I can do is walk away and allow you to find out for yourself. Thirdly, never mind. What do you care what I think? You're obviously too important to deal with the plebes. And lastly, it took me about an hour to make my thank you pic, and takes even less time to do what I think is a courtesy that lets my reader know that I'm aware of them and appreciate their support.
I don't think I'll have another statement on this matter. I can't believe I was suckered into a flame war about saying "thank you." I have no idea why this subject is at all controversial. When I started out, the first time I received a "thanks for the sub" I knew what was socially expected right away. It never occurred to me to rebel against what I saw as prosocial and good marketing.
I don't say anything to subscribers. I feel like posting my comics online for free is more than enough thanks. I know this probably makes me sound like a jerk but also I don't want to send a thank you for subscribing, half-assed pic that I send to everybody that subscribes. It's not something that feels genuine to me.
I don't do thank you pic to send to each and every of my subscriber because i feel like I'm playing a sort of favoring game when I have two different groups of audience on two different sites that I'm posting my comic on. (Tapastic and LINE Webtoon). So I figure a thank you picture at the end of the update should be more than enough.
P/s: Also I feel like I'm spamming people if I mass sending out thank you note like that. It's just not my thing even when people say they like receiving it.
i like them! i actually dont get a lot when i subscribe to peeps so its really nice when they do send me one. i feel spesh. so whenever i send them i try writin somethin with it too even if its just "hi (name)" cuz i want them to feel spesh too. i do really gotta make a new thank you pic tho cuz mines hecka old
I love those messages, both recieving and giving them. Especially when it's from creators with a lot of subscribers!!! (Really, I respect you if you have sent over 2k messages, these things take a lot of time wth)
Too bad most readers are app users and won't see the message...
So because it's very time consuming and hard to keep up doing at least weekly, I stopped sending them when my comic reached 1.5k.
It's a lot of work sending those, and it never ends with my weekly gain of almost 100 subs... I rather spend those hours on my comic pages, because that's what the people subscribe for in the first place đ
I liked sending them, because I got to read the readers description and see if they had comics themselves too. Also, it's fun to see what kind of comics my readers usually read too. Gives me an idea of what they like.
I think maybe some certain people in this thread might need to calm their respective tatas, just sayin'.
That said, I quite like the thank-you posts, though they're by no means required for anyone. We're here to do comics, and that's great! So people subscribe because they like what we do. I've never been at another site where this was something anyone really did. It's pretty much unique to Tapastic, and there's nothing wrong with not doing it, especially if you have a huge inrush or the site (as it tends to do) freaks out and won't let you post.
I enjoy doing it, though, and it's something nice I can do, that sometimes means a lot to people, when I have the time and I'm not working on my comics or other work. As long as it doesn't take you away from the reason you're here, I don't think it has to be this histrionic, polarizing issue. It's a nice gesture, and like most nice gestures, it's not necessary and is typically done because someone is being kind and friendly.
I see it as getting an exclusive collectible for showing your support! And it does tend to bring eyes to what you do that an icon for your series can't do. So it also may benefit creators, which is always a pleasant bonus.
It's a cute gesture, and I love getting those on my wall <3 Sometimes I get them quite a while after I subscribed, but if the creators get a ton of new subs I totally understand it'll take a while to post to everyone (that happens to me too, I don't have THAT many subs, but work and life usually causes trouble for me instead haha).
I've made one for my comic too. It's pretty simple, but I rather post that one and say I appreciate the sub than not post at all :3
I was doing them, but they were taking up a lot of time. Also stopped doing them because a few years back someone made this same post and everyone was complain about the "wall Spam" So I felt, why bother if people don't like it. Seems like that's turned around now. lol
I would like to do them again, but I am in a spot for time.
I really like them, both receiving them and sending them!! It is a good place to say hello to the creatorâ I've had a lot of readers respond to the thank-yous I've sent by asking questions or striking up conversations, which I really enjoy. I love knowing my readers. I also feel more comfortable when creators I subscribe to leave thank-yous⌠it's a comfortable place for me to say "thank YOU for sharing your comic with me, it's really funny!!" or whatever, which is something I tend to be a little more anxious and shy about on the actual comic pages.
Also, just wanna say that I've found loads of the comics in my reading list by clicking on interesting-looking thank-yous that I saw on other people's walls.
i don't, as subs come and go like the wind - i find that tapastic, for all its reader interraction, still feels like a fairly impersonal place and people will subscribe on a whim if they're interested, and unsub a day later if they find the said comic isn't for them, which is ok! it's the way things go. Additionally, I don't want to force a conversation with people - this doesn't apply to anyone else, just my own awkward social habits - and for me, it'd feel a little like that if i was posting on their wall. (however, i don't mind when someone posts on mine! guess it's as haven't initiated it)
also, it's also particularly hard when you get featured, or trend, and get a sudden windfall. no way would I have been able to keep up when I was in the spotlight, for example.
tldr; i don't mind other people's thank you images! some of them are really sweet. i just tend to personally avoid using them due to time constraints, and the transient nature of subscriptions, which means people could feel an obligation to read my comic, even if they find it isn't for them.
Listen, I just want to say that I'm sorry for getting so riled up about it. I was angry at the implication and was taking it personally--I know that. Maybe it is confirmation bias, but I think that can honestly go for both of us here. And really, it wouldn't surprise me that doing a thank you image has more benefits than not on a whole. If I had more time I actually would do it myself. I like the idea and considered it for a long time before deciding not to. Who knows, maybe I'll change my mind sometime in the future.
I cared about your opinion because it struck me as deeply unfair, and as an insult to people like me. I'm not sure where your comic is at length or quality wise, but my webcomic is like a second (unpaid) full time job for me that I've been doing for five years. The scale of my project is huge, and it goes beyond just posting a page a week--I print it, sell at conventions, keep up on social media and marketing, manage my team, write the story, edit the story--the roles are endless.
For you it may take an hour to make a thank you pic, but for me it would take at least 4. And it may take only a minute to copy and paste a subscriber name and post it on their wall. But unless I keep up with it literally every day, which is really hard with my work schedule, I would get drastically behind and end up wasting more time on it than I gain.
This is definitely not a situation of me viewing my subscribers as anything less than me (definitely not "plebes"!), and that's what I'm trying to get you to understand. That's really all the core of the issue is for me: you're assuming that I, and people like me, look down on readers or care less, when it's simply not true.
You don't have to respond of course, but I hope you still took some time to read it. I'm sorry again for getting my panties in a twist over it.
I love receiving them and for sending them, I have to be in a specific mood. No one's fault but my own |"D mainly because I take my time to look at the person's comic and although the comment message on top of the animation is repetitive (mainly a thank you, hope they like the story, and that they have a good day), I make sure it suits the person's apparent tastes and keep the greeting genuine and different.
I think their fun! Though I don't participate in posting them on walls anymore @_@ it got a little hard for me to keep up plus I'm trying to stay focused working on pages.
I feel nothing when i receive them. I perceive them as ads and use them as such. An interesting or appealing "thank you" pic on someone's wall might entice me to check out the comic (usually seen while I'm in the process of leaving such pics myself). So I try to make mine reflect the tone of my comic and its characters.
My brain needed to twist things this way, otherwise I felt weird thanking ppl for subbing for some reason... like "oh, please, they're not THAT interested in your comic anyway"??? I'm projecting my own lack of care for receiving them unto others, I guess.
i like them! theyre a cute bit of extra art, and an opportunity for me to throw in any compliments i didnt comment, or just say again that i love the comic
I initially did not set up a Thank you image, because as a reader I didn't really care if I got one or not. But after seeing that most creators do it, I decided to try it out. After receiving comments back it is really something that other people seem to enjoy. Now, I periodically go through and send a thank you and short comment to new subscribers.
I didn't set one up, mainly because I felt they become routine or expected, so they stop feeling special after a while (I mean, it's cute but it could be just as effective or more if they write out a unique and personal thank you message). I myself just post pictures of cute pugs as a light-hearted and fun thank you. So far the response has been positive.
I haven't even had the time to create a thank you picture yet. My health is rocky at best and I do well most weeks to get my page done. I've slowly been coming ahead lately, so maybe at some point soon I'll be able to take part. Maybe. I don't want to get hopes up if my health takes a nose dive and I end up not being able to get the image done and get it posted to everyone's profiles. 
Edit: Also, I'm perfectly ok with not getting one. They're cute, though the comic itself is the grand prize, really. I'm just grateful that creators are providing such beautiful and awesome content for free!
