TWENTY-THIRD UPDATE! (Replies 283-300)
Well, here I am, back at it again...starting with some year-old submissions this time around; it's getting dire. ^^; Ah well, I just suddenly got motivated to come back to this, and as this is one of the few surviving topics that's old enough not to auto-close, I kinda feel like it would be a waste not to drag it out as long as possible. :T
Son of Fire @gh0st_V
-I LOVE the chapter titles.
I love them! They’re all so cool~
-“But we were young enough not to know the difference between love and familial bonds”→ this line feels misleading...it’s saying that love and familial bonds are not equivalent, and implies that the characters were too young and naive to know that. Further implying that someone they have a familial bond with, i.e. Aunt Silva, will turn out not to love them...but I’m not getting that vibe from the other descriptions of her. Idk, either I’m seeing the foreshadowing you want me to see, or something’s up...
-“As a child I was baptized, submerged in water to give myself to God. How could something so merciless be a symbol of salvation?”→ You have...seen a baptism before, right? Like, in the modern day…?? ^^; You don’t waterboard the baby or anything; it’s no more “merciless” than giving them a normal bath. Unless you’ve had an experience I haven’t had…
I’d like to think that ‘merciless’ simply refers to water itself, reflecting the MC’s fears by generalizing them over the whole element. But the “ever since” line right after this makes this unlikely...it really reads like they’re living with trauma from something that should not have been traumatic, without explaining why.
-An “elegant” extremely clunky first line of dialogue...MC is being tortured and yet you’re having him talk like a robot. “Fuck you. I already told you I have no idea what the hell you’re talking about.” → “Fuck you. I already told you, I don’t know what you’re talking about!!” People under duress usually speak in shorter, more emotional phrases.
=You’re in an odd position that I don’t see a lot of writers in...your descriptive writing is incredible. The images you paint of the ‘emotional scenery’, so to speak, are powerful and striking. Unfortunately, the dialogue is nowhere near the same level, and it just kills the story...I’m immersed, and then a character opens their mouth and I’m pulled right out of the action, again and again. Either the things they say don’t fully make sense or don’t sound fitting for the situation, or both.
I realize this novel began 2 years ago though, so I hope you’ve grown into your writing style a little more by now, and learned to improve your characters’ speech. I think that’s all you need to take your work from “okay-ish” to “amazing”.
The weight of the universe @SirCoockie
-Interesting style you have going on with the title art there...I dig it~
-I think the “how to read a manga” diagram is a little unnecessary...if you’ve seen those in localized print manga, it’s likely because some publisher back in the day realized that whatever 12-year-old picked it up could easily have no idea what manga is or how it works.
In this day and age, most manga do not have those anymore. ^^; Especially not web manga...it’s fair to assume that the viewer already knows what’s going on, and if not, a simple “this comic reads from right to left” somewhere in the description should suffice.
-The lack of punctuation really hurts the impact of this dialogue. =/ It’s hard to discern the tone of the lines that are being said when the whole comic reads like one long text convo...
=Feels like 10% story, 90% air. All the characters are constantly chattering about data and results and mysteries, and yet the reader is given only the tiniest, slightest hints about what it’s all for. And then, every time it looks like some concrete story element is about to be revealed, we jump to a new cast of characters that we can watch chatter about vague ideas. There’s a fine line between building suspense and just stringing the reader along, refusing to actually tell them anything worthwhile, and I think you crossed it. :T
The problem is that there’s nothing to hold onto in the meantime. The art is rough, the dialogue is wooden, and there’s not a lot of character on display. If you’re not gonna give the reader information, fine; but you still need to entertain them in some other way.
Light Rising @morganicfoods
-I like the background/setting artwork...I just wish the drawings of the characters were of similar quality…
=...It’s OK, I guess. A very...average comic; not good, not bad. It’s hard to know what to say about it…
If I had to say something, I think the character convos could stand to be a little more informative...y’know, actually give us a chance to learn who these people are and care about them, before we’re stuck watching them trade empty banter.
It’s not that your dialogue is awful; far from it, but as someone who just started reading I’m really not interested in watching Girl B tell Girl A she’s not gonna make it in the auditions in 7 different ways across two whole episodes...it just feels dull and repetitive, and like you could be using this time for better things.
Gamers Guff @WhoDrew
=Very...unfunny, unfortunately…
...Well, mostly unfunny. Episode 5 felt like an actual joke and made me smile, at least. Then the next 2 episodes did not, and I figured it was time to quit.
It feels weird, because the comic seems pretty popular, but to be 100% honest I don’t know what all these people see in it. ¯_(=/)_/¯ There’s no real humor; it’s just a bunch of over-the-top reactions without any setup. Fortunately I know enough about video games to “get” what’s supposed to be funny about most of these situations, but that also means I know enough to realize that you’re just barely communicating it.
Also, I feel like the synopsis is misleading...the two brothers are “as polar opposite as you can imagine”, despite the fact that the comics are not long enough or complex enough to characterize either of them in any meaningful way. =/
They “literally go inside the games”...despite the fact that half the time they’re just doing meta-commentary on the games like any normal fan would. =/ It’s weird that the premise is already being betrayed in just the first few episodes; like if you knew that early on that you wanted to do something different, you could’ve just changed the description…
...In a word: underwhelming.
Chasing Grief @rainwang
=In a word: messy.
Poetry is an exercise of style; there needs to be something intentional about how you choose and arrange your words, something that helps make the reader feel what you want them to feel. And I would encourage you to ask yourself what that stylistic quality is supposed to be, because I’m not seeing it. Simply making some of the words rhyme occasionally isn’t enough (especially when you keep randomly changing the rhythm and placement); I CAN feel the emotion you’re trying to convey, but the “poetry” is so devoid of style that I can’t help asking myself “why isn’t this just prose?” It feels more like pretty prose arranged into stanzas than an actual poem….either you need to implement a stronger rhyme/syllabic structure or you need to let it go completely; dabbling in the middle like this is just disorienting to read, it makes it look like you don’t really know what you want to do.
You’re definitely the best poet I’ve seen yet in this thread, and your work seems to get better as it goes. But from what I’ve read in the first handful of episodes, there’s a lot of room to improve.