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Nov 2019

It is a youtube problem...right now. The reason this is happening is because Google has been ignoring COPPA rules for years and it has only recently caught up with them. The fact that creators are being held responsible now is not something the FTC had originally intended but it was made a part of the settlement with Google. Again if you are concerned then join up with everyone else and comment to the FTC and petition the new revisions before Dec 9th when the comment portion of the inquire ends and a final decision is made.

I'm not an US citizen, sadly. So as with all damaging global initiatives, like SOPA, article 13, etc, I can do nothing but sit and helplessly watch how the things will turn out. On the plus side I don't think that FTC can fine me? I mean, what can they do if I just ignore them?

Unfortunately...it still effects you if you post on Youtube. YT is American based so the FTC can come after you since you have published videos with an American company.

Bless Jim "The Kids Don't Even Like me!" Sterling Son.... I was actually just thinking about that video recently as well, funnily enough.

Yes, but what can they do? It seems that at worst I'll lose my account if push comes to shove. Bad, but better than being forced to pay an amount of money on which I could live without a job for five years.

I'm not giving you any legal advice here but I am going to say make sure you cover your own ass because things can get much worse than just losing an account. Because you have videos on Youtube it doesn't even matter if they are monetized or not they will be looked into if the FTC decides to go this route. And if they decide any of it is child directed or appeals to children you will be fined since you are posting content with the an American based platform you are subject to American laws. It is a lot like say someone in Korea writes a medical advice book that is full of exaggerated and false claims and tries to publish it through an American publisher they will be held accountable to follow American laws since they are doing business with an American company. I can only tell you go through your videos now and label everything that you can to avoid trouble later.

IM not in panic... and I already signed the petition. But I still remember how FCC ignored everyone about net neutrality xD

If this means I'll be extracted into the US to be on a trial... maybe I shouldn't. =D

Here's a new video on the subject for anyone that might still be confused or reading several conflicting tweets as the situation developed. Dan loves/hates to look into content creation plataforms and how they operate(especially during the many Patreon changes) so hopefully he's mostly accurate or corrects what changes in the coming weeks on his twitter.

LOVE that some of the settlement stuff actually went "youtube shouldn't put a bot to do this, it'd hit legitimately child unfriendly channels, we're good as long as you do something substantial" then youtube went and put a bot anyway

That was a totally different situation. The FCC actively wanted to stop dealing with consumer complaints about ISPs and wanted to pass the responsibility over to the FTC. Ajit Pai hated Net neutrality with a passion.

I just learned about this, are there chances Tapas and other sites/apps will be affected, or is it just Youtube for now? :doggo_shook:

It's just Youtube for now. They screwed up and during the settlement phase they pretty much told the FTC hey we will take this first hit but we will not be sued again because it's the content creators' fault for attracting children to the site. They have agreed to give out personal account info if the FTC decides to sue someone during their sweeps.

What AceRagz said; Tapas doesn't advertise content for kids and treats them like adults - toy photography is for aesthetic purposes only, no actual children's books. When you make an account here, you need to be above 13, and it's in the ToS that the site is not made for people under that in any shape or form. They can more than argue the children on this site are lying about their age to begin with and it's out of their hands(and will probably ban the offending account if they find out),while Youtube tried to have both and got burned.

11 days later

Oh, okay! Thanks a lot for clarifying and sorry for the late reply, I'm only seeing this now. Hope you have a great weekend, cheers!

Personally, i think the whole COPPA thing is a massive truckload of bullshit.

There's already youtube kids, but obviously kids are still going to watch regular youtube. Nobody is going to prevent them from doing it.
So what do they do? Invent an actual solution to instruct parents to watch over their children when they do stuff online? Nope. Instead these parents leave their children 8+ on the Ipad or tablet to do the parenting for them (have fun!)

And the worst thing? The content creators on youtube suffer from this since they can't make any money if their video is child friendly. They have to mark their video's and if they don't these creators get a large fine of about 42.000 dollars.

This is just a sign that Youtube's about to crumble since they screwed themselves over.

There is a lot of misinformation going around. The fine is up to $42,000 but not a set thing. The FTC have said they will take in the operator's (according to YT that's content providers) overall finical situation before dealing out a fine. They did say that they are looking to punish offenders but not to bankrupt anyone. So the likehood of an average everyday creator getting a 42k fine per video is very unlikely.

27 days later

Sorry to resurrect this dead topic, but I remembered this and was wondering if YouTube needing to comply/use such strict rules also has something to do with that weird Momo epidemic and other videos that imitate kids shows but end up having sinister agendas?

Kinda that, but also channels that were just thinly veiled advertisements and toy commercials to kids without explicitly telling them that it was explicitly a commercial. (Ryan's Toy Reviews and his terribly made tie-in toyline for example.)