Someone suggested that learning to write better would help me make a comic faster. How does this work?

[AmazementComics]

Hey, why don’t you take the advice of folks who just gave it to you? This question was already answered the first time around. Unless you just want an excuse to drag this thread on for an eternity. Write better, you can write a better comic. Write a better comic, and nobody would critique you on this. Understand that perfecting your writing is a continual process. Same thing with drawing comics for improvement. Plain and simple.

[JoshRaed]

Answered how? I was just told I should already know the answer.

And when I tried to explain my confusion people just completely ignored what I was trying to communicate and changed the subject when I made it clear what my confusion was.

Would stephen king be able to draw a comic well and quickly with no drawing class because he writes so well and so often?

Like how would writing good lead me into drawing good?

[LostKelp]

I see no harm in making a short and shit comic, but what they probably mean is that if you are writing dialouge off the cuff or are making it up as you go along and you are a bad writer, then you'll end up adding more shit than you need and making plot points that never get a conclusions thus wasting your time and making you slower. Well written usually means well paced, so your plot doesn't drag and you get to the point. Usually a bad story can be made into a good story by cutting some shit out thus making it shorter.

I would say that better advise than "just get gud lol" would be "plan your scenes ahead so you can minimize your workload by cutting fluff and merging scenes".

[JoshRaed]

I am not making up any part of it on the spot.

And I did plan the scenes.

[LostKelp]

Yeah mate, I wasn't saying that you weren't doing that. It's just what their advise probably meant.

[JoshRaed]

Their advice came from me saying that I drew a comic for a year and never got around to the plot because I drew it so slowly. They said all my problems would be solved by learning how to write, and refused to explain.

[LostKelp]

How many pages did you draw?

[AmazementComics]

What I mean is the two go hand and hand. You want to draw a comic don’t you? Well when you actually sit down and take the time to draw the comic, then learn to get better at writing. People already told you that it’s okay to make a dumpster fire of a first comic. So long as you’re being proactive to make changes for the next project. You didn’t need to ask this question on the forums. The advice given should have been a no-brainer to you or to any content creator.

[IndigoShirtProd]

I think the word you're getting hooked on is "better."

A better written story with good pacing, no more time than necessary is spent on each part of the story, a better plot, the core story is interesting and immersive and follows its own internal logic, and better characters, the characters are interesting with their own arcs that make sense with the character development initially given to the reader.

But, here's the catch. You don’t need a better story, you need a better written. Story that's feasible to complete within a time period, a minimum viable product as Brookes Eggleston would say. Shorten a story or write a new one from scratch featuring one main character who goes through one arc that takes place in one main setting. Use that as a playground of sorts to learn how to write a concise piece of work and then turn it into a comic.

Edit: a "better" story and a "better written" story are not mutually exclusive, they can be one and same.

[JoshRaed]

I drew like 40 pages.

[JoshRaed]

The person who gave this criticism didn’t even see my comic, they just decided based on what I said happened that my problem was my ability to write, and refused to explain why.

[IndigoShirtProd]

Then make a one shot. Just one chapter with a full story and limit the number of pages it can be.

[JoshRaed]

That’s good advice, but I really just want to understand this exchange, and what everyone else read into it that I did not.

Hire someone to teach you how to write. Second option, get a ghostwriter to first outline the rough story, then get a ghostwriter and let them finish the first chapter. Check if you are satisfied with the result and take it from there Both will cost you money, you just have to decide what step to take

[IndigoShirtProd]

What about this exchange do you think you misunderstood?

[JoshRaed]

Why this persons advice would work.

[Kelheor]

Writing will not help you with drawing, it's not the same skill. And you don't have to get a ghostwriter. Lensing basically tried to say the same thing people wrote here. We all do things differently, we are of different ages and experiences, so people won't give you one universal advice on how to do the thing.

[LostKelp]

Alright so a part of it might be that a) you don't have enough spare time - fair enough
B) you have a style that necessitates alot of time eg includes colour, shading, lots of fine detail, lots of complex compsitions, fine tuned anatomy, backgrounds etc. Having a style that is based around shapes and values is a way to make a comic very quickly, you stop focusing on detail or whatever and focus on the basic shapes required to convey what's going on - think stickmen, or the odds1out or that sort of thing. Not your jam? Cool. But it's gonna take longer.
C) the writing, when you say "no plot" in 40 pages. I'm going to assume you mean that it was the intro to the characters and the world. "No plot" in 40 pages in a high scifi/fantasy setting is understandable. If it's a horror comic, a slow pace may be required. It's bad if it's romance, comedy, drama, action or slice of life, if it's any of those things your gonna need some restructuring because they don't need much establishing. And if they do then they aren't great material for your first comic.

[igneriss]

I think it's writing as in pacing and overall plotting, knowing what is necessary to set up the story & build connections between characters while also knowing what to skip. Then, if there are no unnecessary parts, the story can be shorter and by that, drawn faster. Also, planning out chapters is easier when you have more practice in writing.
Let's take my story, as an example I started working on it almost 10 years ago. That's a lot of time, and my writing has improved between chapter 1 and chapter 19 which I'm currently posting. And while I think my story is great and would highly recommend, if I were to start drawing it again with my current skills, I would do a lot of things differently. I'd skip some parts and maybe even characters, change pacing a bit, which would make it shorter but better. That being said, it's good as it is. BUT stories that I've tried drawing before 6,75...? With barely any writing skills? That was a disaster and took me forever to draw cx
Maybe that's not your issue tho, but that's how I see better writing = making comic faster connection.

[JoshRaed]

You mean the pacing thing? But my comíc only took 2 chapters to get where it was going, and the problem was that this would take two years to draw.

[JoshRaed]

It’s the third one honestly. Everything was in the known world stage of the heroes journey plot.