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Hello, everyone. I'm Gokce. When @Chuksi told me that it was easier to build an audience on Webtoons, I was a bit sceptical tbh, however, the gap in subs is pretty big(119 on Webtoons and 10 on Tapas). How about you? Is the gap big for you as well or maybe you have a bigger audience on here? This is not a promotion thread, I'm just curious about this gap.

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I just joined both Tapas and Webtoons barely last week but there is a big gap in subs between the two platforms. I am already at 17 subs on Webtoons (and this is without even promoting it) whereas I don't even have 1 sub yet on Tapas. It seems to be a broader audience on Webtoons than on Tapas. But I'm new to both platforms so I'm not one hundred percent sure about it all.

First of all, welcome! And yeah, it's really weird. You'd think the episodes would get drowned in the sea of others' updates but no, even without promoting, comics seem to do well over at Webtoon. I wonder what's the difference between that site and this one :thinking:

I feel like Tapas is a Wattpad for comic. Wattpad is a huge writing site (it is like the Deviantart for writers). I used to be on Wattpad years ago, and I remember when it was a small-time app on the App Store where small writers could share their stories and novels. Now it is almost like a next-star-on-Hollywood searching site where only the most popular writer gets noticed. If you are a new writer or if your story isn't "popular," your work will get shoved down to the bottom. It was for this reason why I left Wattpad back in 2019 after being on there since 2013 or 2014.

It seems the internet wants to punish small artists and writers for not being popular or not "selling their souls for fame." Just like the popular artists, we small artists want to be noticed too. I wish there was a website for small artists to go to where everyone has a fair chance of getting noticed.

I actually have had the opposite experience. On Tapas I've had consistently steady growth with promotion and just passed 850 subs, good engagement with a decent number of likes and comments every update. On webtoon meanwhile I have.... 14 subs and no comments. No idea how to change that because there's nowhere to promote yourself. I might try uploading at a different time or something, but it just feels impossible to get seen on there.

I have to disagree with you there, I think Webtoon is more similar to Wattpad than Tapas, especially considering neither of them have forums. And Webtoon is older than Tapas too, as far as I know.

I promote the Tapas version here when I update, because this is the Tapas forum. If Webtoon creators are needing to rely on the Tapas forums and that's the secret to getting a foothold, it doesn't exactly reflect well on Webtoon as a platform.

Yeah I also have a big gap from maybe 450 subs.
The reason is:
1. webtoon have a lot of more users.. simple but true
2. On Webtoon there is the canvas area where you can see all webtoon canvas. So if you update and someone look at the all list (many people do that), your comic might be the first comic they see. pretty helpful. By tapas you can also see all comics, but normally you see the popular ones and not the recent updated. especially the app is really user unfriendly in this
3. when your rating is high, what it is normally at the start bc we can also rate our webtoon :wink: , you appear in a star rated list anywhere on webtoon desktop page. I was there at the start too

You're right, but you do what you have to :shrug:

I also promote on Twitter, that seems to help too. I basically promote anywhere and everywhere I can haha

Now that's interesting :thinking:

I wonder if our webtoon ever made it there as well.

Honestly since I have over 800 more subs here it just feels easier to focus on Tapas as my main mirror and to use webtoon as just a secondary place to advertise the comic to pick up the odd extra sub on Tapas. :sweat_02:

I feel the same way about Webtoon but you never know when your story will be picked up by one of the sites so it's best to give attention to both imo

First of all: You have nice art work. That is going to help.

In this second part, I am only offering supposition. WebToons has creators, readers, and critics. Critics follow many series just by looking for fresh updates. I am not a critic, so I can only infer their motives. I am a creator/reader.

You can gather dozens to hundreds of readers & critics on Webtoons. But you need thousands of subscribers to qualify for revenue. WebToons limits the number of subscriptions each reader can follow.

Tapas lets you accumulate revenue with a much lower subscriber count (and lets readers earn ink by watching ads), but you need a huge reader base to earn enough to withdrawal funds. On Tapas, you might find creator/readers on the forums. Helpful in reaching the subscriber limits, but not part of the devoted readership that you really need.

I suggest you post tapas updates in forum threads (use links to make it easy to find, and ask for subscribers). I think you will be successful because your series is high quality.

@Chuksi will be happy to hear that, thank you!

I already do that, but thank you again. I'm hopeful that we will be successful as well, we just need time.

Mine as well! I have 150 subs on Tapas, but 30 subs on Webtoon. I guess it's because most viewers of Webtoon are younger than of Tapas. The favored style and story might be different depending on platforms.

Yeah, I originally picked Tapas as my exclusive mirror because I heard (and saw) that the popular comics here tend to have more LGBTQ+ themes (and readers seem more positive about LGBTQ+ content) and more varied art styles. A lot of my long-time friends from the UK small press scene have comics on Tapas and some have seen a fair bit of success. It just felt like I fit in better.

Im in a similar boat with only 9 subs so far. And I only have two subs that interact and comment, one being an irl friend. I debated abandoning the webtoons mirror, but I'd feel bad for the one sub who seems to be really enjoying the comic. Im probably going to keep it up for them. :sweat_02:

Wow that's actually pretty surprising! I would have expected BBS would be bigger on Webtoon where the comics tend to skew more action-orientated.

I totally get you on updating for like... the 1-2 people who do seem to be reading and liking pages on Webtoon. At this point I'm like "....well, better keep updating there I guess..."

I think the style and page format is probably what's keeping it from growing faster. I guess compared to the growth I experienced on Tapas we hen i first started, WT is a little faster, but not by much.

Im actually more surprised Errant hasn't blown up, it feels like it should.

I used Tapas for a few months before I started posting to webtoon, so I have more followers here. However, the ratio of views to follows is better on webtoon, and I get at least a few new subscribers with every update, even though I put far less effort into marketing on webtoon.

With that said, webtoon feels like a ghost town. There's no real connection to subscribers -- you don't get to see who subscribes or likes your episodes, and I have never gotten a single comment, whereas I have almost 200 on Tapas.

We get comments on our episodes but I agree with you on that not seeing who subs or likes the episodes feels a bit lonely.

I've got 2 series on both platform
one BL, +18, heavily censored on webtoon and in romance genre there
tapas - started in august 2018 - slightly over 3K subs, webtoon - started in june 2019 - 2.3K subs
way more likes on tapas, usually around the same number of comments, sometimes more on tapas
second one - fantasy (with horror as a secondary genre on webtoon, horror and bl on tapas), started on both in september 2019
tapas - 947 subs, webtoon - 999 subs
harder to compare likes as I'm posting page-by-page on tapas and in 10 pages batches on webtoon but it feels like I get more likes here but more comments on webtoon

I'm not sure about likes but we definitely get more comments on Webtoon. Also, those are pretty big numbers, so congrats!

My Tapas growth is waaay bigger than my Webtoon growth, but I also draw a more Western style.

I also had the opposite effect for a while. Around a year ago, I had less than 100 subs on WT, but more than 400 on Tapas. I did differently tho. My episodes on Tapas are shorter, so I updated more times. I also "hacked" my way up on Tapas by using a BL icon in the thumbnail lol (I removed it). But since my comic was promoted on both sites it reversed, now I have twice as much subs on WT compared to Tapas. My organic growth is still way better on Tapas though.

I personally have more on tapas - 22 on here vs 15 on webtoons. "Project: Achilles" is still pretty young, though.

Well i started with Tapas a few weeks before finally deciding to mirror it on WT (I started in 2020 btw).
At first, tapas has higher sub counts their gap was at least a hundred but then suddenly it changed after I reached 1k subs here on tapas, WT suddenly caught up pretty fast and surpassed my tapas subs. Now their gap is currently at 1.1k .
in terms of comments and likes, WT has more comments and likes though

My sub gap between the two isn't extremely pronounced; I've 344 subs on WEBTOON, as compared to 280-ish subs here on Tapas. That said, I got promoted on 'New From The Community' here on Tapas, while I've never been promoted on WEBTOON. That, plus the fact that I'm very active here on the forums, helps keep the numbers close.

I expect the WEBTOON version to pull further ahead in time. I put most of my marketing efforts into the WEBTOON version as well, since, like a lot of artists, I'd love for future series of mine to attract the right attention from the WEBTOON staff, and potentially become featured series.

I have 182 subscribers on WEBTOON and I have 165 here on Tapas. There's not much difference but I've been posting on WEBTOON since October last year while I'm only here for about a month. Well, I was a part of The Easter Egg Hunt and my sub count raised up to 100 in a day so I guess I just got lucky?

Lol the last event? (April 2-5) Chosen stories has a question posted on the last page of their first episode and readers will answer it. Mine was posted on the second day.

I don't follow events haha :sweat_smile: Sounds like it was fun and helpful

Yeah it is. It was kinda overwhelming tho since I don't know if I should reply to all the answers there.

Sounds like something to ask about when/if there is a new event.

I've got 62 subscribers on Tapas (first episode posted in August) and 92 on Webtoon (first episode posted in November). I definitely found it easier to get a following on Webtoon compared to Tapas: I mentioned this many times already, but I do literally nothing to promote my comic on Webtoon and yet I still get new followers with each episode. That said, however, it's also true that I get, like... zero interaction on my Webtoon posts. That one like on my last few episodes? ...I was the one who clicked on it, because seeing "0 likes" irked me to no end XD seriously, I don't know if people on there simply forget to tap "like" or if they simply stopped reading at some point, but... it really does feel like I'm shouting into a void when I post my stuff on there. On Tapas I may have less subscribers, but at least there IS a sense of community in which people actually interact with you! D:

We have the opposite situation with our webcomic/webtoon. No comments on Tapas and plenty of them on Webtoon. Then again, we published first on Webtoon so maybe it just needs time.

Yea, there is a gap. I have 250subs on WT and only 33 on Tapas.

Yep, I often hear that people get more comments on Webtoon compared to Tapas, but somehow for me it ended up being the opposite, lol! I did get a few lovely comments on my first few episodes, then, starting from episode 11 and on... nothing at all (I eventually ended up merging a few of my episodes, so now it looks like there's only 13 of them on my page, but before that there were at least three more... all with zero likes and zero comments). I recently made a teeny-tiny bonus illustration to add at the end of each episode to remind people to like episodes. We'll see how that goes... :sweat:

I have 94 here and 46 on webtoon. I can advertise here better and I like the reader metrics better than webtoons so I push readers here more. I never really get noticed on webtoons much. People seem to get more subs on webtoons but I have no clue how.