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Mar 2018

It's good that creators like you are pushing these contents out for people to be exposed and understand it! I have a friend who only just mildly put in the hint between her two male characters was enough for some readers to show their annoyance and it's really sad and frustrating :/ I guess readers vary from series to series.

On another note about Webtoon, really wish Webtoon could be more diverse with their interest though because readers always expect romance out of your story even though your story has little to no romance element.

On tapastic you can just update your comic whenever you want but on Webtoons it seems that you have a "fixed" update time (like every monday for exemple).
Are you obligated in any way to stick to a fixed update time, or can you just post new pages whenever you want ?

That's just for the featured comics (i.e. contracted professional ones). The rest of us are free to update whenever.

They actually did replied back to me(Though was almost a week after I sent an email and my mailbox marked them as junk mail) and informed me that I'm unable to delete the account by myself so I have to send them another email asking them to delete the account though I don't know how long that'll take.

26 days later

Sorry if this has already been asked/answered, but most of the topics about Tapastic/Webtoons are comparing the two, but is it common for people post their comic on both?

Or put another way, what are the reasons keeping many people from posting to both? Do they want to put their time and energy into just one? Are they likely to make more money if sticking to one? Or do they lose the chance to get a deal signed/make money if they post on both?

I've seen artists on both and they post different content on each site. Is this more common than reposting the same comic on both, or are they both common? What's everyone's experience?

There isn't a main reason to be exclusive unless your contractually obligated to only post on one site. You don't loose out getting a chancr to be featured, but once you are, you can no longer post on the opposing platforms.

It does take time to edit and change your format to suit the other site's restrictions such as Webtoons 800px JPG standard. Creators coming from Tapastic have to convert their pages, especially if they were originally PNG files.

Also, it's important to note that Webtoons is fully mobile focused. They do have a desktop platform, but it's clear they focus themselves on the app front. This means users expect a comic that reads well on mobile and is ideally scrolling pages with bulky episodes. This format doesn't bode well with every comic out there, and while you can post single page print-style comics you might get some flack from users and not see as much growth.

I am currently on both tapas and Line. Like some others i have gotten more views on Line than here. When you first start you want exposure so being on more than one platform is best. If by some miracle i was offered a publishing deal i would just take my comic down on one site. But to go right off the bat expecting that is cheating yourself of more eyes on your comic.

Although My Comic110 started fast on Tapas due to being on staff picks, I have seen very very little actual growth in the amount of readers after posting for about a year. I started off in the mid 300s, and I'm still in the mid 300s.

I'm not sure if it's something about my comic, or something about Tapas, or if they're just different audiences - but I'm struggling to maintain and grow audience here due to problems with people unsubbing so often.

On Line, I've seen a much faster growth and very few unsubs in comparison.

I really like the interaction I get on Tapas - more people comment and I have a core audience that reads it every week whether or not my overall sub count is dropping.

However, it's very disheartening to struggle so much with growing and maintaining that audience. Of course it COULD be just my style; that people aren't particularly interested in here. I had assumed it must be a difference in the types of audiences.

^ I have to agree that tapas audiences have a very high tendency to unsub. It's something I have to struggle with, if I were to not update for a whole week I would probably lose about 350 subs or something and gain very little.

8 months later

Well...
For now, I have a lot of traffic in WEBTOON than here in TAPAS. I'm wondering why. I have a total of 92 subscriber in WEBTOON with over 83 comments as of now. While in here, tapastic. I only got 9 subscribers and 4 comments. What do you think why?

Here is the link for WEBTOON - Don't READ167
While here is for: TAPAS - Don't READ45

in my opinion, people visit my webtoon comics more than tapastic and my webtoons is more subscribed to and more viewed but tapastic has a very nice and active forums

My personal experience with both places is the same: no one cared about my stuff lol.

I uploaded a comic here on tapastic, like two years ago, and it didn't have coments or likes.

I upload a comic in webton, it was long pages and all that, but it didn't got any coments and zero likes.

This is my currenct comic:

I guess is not that bad compared to the other two, but is on discover page 108, and def don't have many views/coments/likes. And is full color and i update twice a week.

So i think... my comics just can't conect with people.

I like Tapas. And I still use webtons

but :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy:

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I know my comic is bad, but for some weird reason I feel important OoO.

I think Tapas is good to know people and webtoons to have a wider audience.

I like Tapas more because of it's functions for creators and the notification system. Being able to schedule my updates is super useful, so that alone is a big plus for Tapas. The community and forums also are very friendly and helpful places and give a lot of insight for new creators. And having a clear notification system and a profile is also great.

Webtoons is also a good place, but I find it difficult to have oversight over my comic there. No notification box to tell me, when I got a comment... things like that hinder the experience for me.

I haven't used webtoon yet apart from a dummy account I made just to get a feel for it. I chose Tapastic after I read an interview from a famous webcomic artist (Sarah Scribbles) where she said that Tapastic is a good place to start off. I don't feel good about webtoon, I just have a bad feeling about it.

scytheApr '17
Way more interaction over there in terms of regular commentors. I'm getting to know some of them pretty well. Used to get the same here, but not so much anymore.

I still like both places, but I've got 766 subs here and 4.16k over there, and I've only been there half as long.

My honest opinion though just post on both. It's free!

I always think that I'm not getting many new subs, and I'm always losing subs, or that not many people are actually reading, or that I'm treading water. But I just saw that I posted this in April last year, and now I've got 911 subs here and 7,440 on Webtoons, so I guess I don't have anything to worry about after all.

And I still think people should just post on both.

1 month later

Update on my WEBTOON Don't READ
I have finally reach
subscriber 1.2K
views 24.2K
This is definitely overwhelmingly fast progress.
And I finally I have one patron! WOOOHOO!
Here is the link again to my Webtoon Don't READ:

don't LINE has some...shady copyrights claims over the comis you upload there?

So basically what I've gathered from this is that Tapas has a good community and interface, but poor visibility and stagnation problems whereas Webtoons has good visibility but a relatively toxic and picky community? Is that the case? Because I was planning on when I launch DRGN, I'd do page updates on Tapas and then release the full chapters as a whole on Webtoons, is that a good idea?

Well as a person who's been using both sites (tapas first before webtoons) here are there pros and cons for me:

Tapastic;
pros:
more personal engagement with readers (you can go visit/message and post on their page)
use of hyperlinks on mobile version
more file choices for comic upload (png, gif etc)
addition of music to your comics
very creator friendly
tipping
ad revenue
scheduled updates
cons:
very difficult to get viewership/subs due to small audience
reader engagement is on the lower side

webtoons:
pros:
gain following pretty quickly due to larger audience
more active reader engagement
Webtoon X patreon program
ability to label your series as 2 different genres vs one
ability to become a featured artist

cons:
very competitive and can get discouraging at times (Ex: the infamous rating system)
little ability to personally engage with readers
little to no revenue unless you are qualified for the webtoon patreon program (which they have raised the bottomline criteria for qualification
very narrow and strict upload format for comics (must be jpg, no larger than 800X1200 pixels, 20 mb limit)
So both of these sites have their pros and cons but it's really what you're searching for. If you are a new creator and want to test the waters and get some constructive feedback and don't mind the small popularity growth, I would recommend Tapas.
If you're a bit more daring/have some experience and want the opportunity to be featured and have thicker skin, then Line webtoons would be a good option. Of course, you can choose to post on both sites and there is nothing to stop you from doing that so that is an option to if you want to try both

5 months later

Since I've seen many people comparing the views and Subs they get between Tapas and Line, I'd just like to point out that Line is still massive compared to Tapas and 7 years older than it too.

Lines audience base is 17mil while Tapas (according to a newsfeed article from July this year) is 2mil.

Tapas began as a start-up in 2012, and it only has 24 people on staff (info from aforementioned newsfeed article). Meanwhile Line began in 2012 and is sponsored by Naver for all of its costs from the get go (if you were wondering how the contracted comics can still be free while they pay the creators).

That said, I post here on Tapas and not on Line for the following reasons (please note I am biased to and protective of Tapas and I acknowledge that):

Tapas has a more creator friendly environment and that is vital for the future because we need a shift in how people think of and treat creators who are professionals in their field and not just making comics for a hobby.

Tapas site is easier to use and more aesthetically pleasing to me.

I do not agree with the concept of rating free comics like on Line. It falls prey to ill will and honestly if you want to know if a comic's story is decent you just have to see the sub count and read the first 2-3 uploads.
The only comics rated on Tapas are the ones you pay for which is totally fair cause if you pay to read its reasonable to want a good story and it serves as true feedback from peeps who have paid just like reviews for print books and movies.

Tapas has a more LGBT and mature friendly stance.

(personal) My primary goal is not to rack up views and subs and eyeballs on the comics I make. I want a lifelong career in this field and Tapas is more appealing in how they're willing to form that relationship. My information is lacking here: I do not know what the relationship is like under contract with Line so if anyone can enlighten me that would be great.

(personal) In aggregate, from my personal experience and research and tendency to side with the underdog, I firmly believe that given another five years when Tapas gets to ten years old, we'll be able to see major shifts in what it means to support good webcomic stories and their Creators+Publisher.

In contrast, I have a hypothesis that once Line gets big enough to corner the market in the West, they will reach a saturation point and need to make income from the comics themselves rather than rely on Naver. This will involve having to pay to read like Tapas already has in Premium.

It's for these reason I believe Tapas has a stronger potential in the future as they help creators and help readers realize the importance to treating good stories like the quality products they are and not learning to expect things on the Internet to always be free.

Can they do better promoting the free stuff, Yeah. But like everything its a process and I personally can't stay wary and cautious all the time.

I need to put my trust in something to help my career along and right now my gut is going with Tapas.

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I don't mean they should try to be like over 60 panels long. Just reasonably long. I mean if they want to upload pages, even 2 pages per 'chap' would mean half the number of times the credit page needs to be loaded.

hmm ig I'll try to set mine around 20 panels/chap and see what happens. aand it's not that I don't understand the pains of a creator--I probably draw slower than the average person and I know it'll likely take me at the very least 4 hours for every panel. I would just personally prefer to set my bar high and see how far I can go, instead of hoping for instant returns.

Not forcing it on anyone though, just my plans and my thoughts so far.

I wasn't the one who revived it from 2 years ago >~>
it was 4 months

oh yes I understand what you meant, I'm just giving a opinion about the short update,
although I could consider unreasonably short if the update is like 1-2 panels, and yeah I think that's unreasonably short.

ohh 20 panels is a good count, Good luck on your comic! anyway it's up to creator what to decided on his/her comic,

it's your comic your rules. as long as you don't get burn out and always keep motivated.

I have my comic on both, HOWEVER.... I have gotten into a subtle tiff with Line's trust and safety division about nudity. GO FIGURE. Like my comic I have a rebellious side, and I still post the episode on webtoons but with a fun picture that says " unfortunately I can't post this episode please visit my tapas page. Ect ect."
I have had a few follow over. I'm not here for followers (don't get me wrong it's nice to have that notification) but I just want to have my story heard.